Infinitely more interested. Murlis are here to serve the world. You seem to be more interested in panto. I cannot decide whether you are a stooge, a troll or plain stupid. I think you've had far too much attention and it's getting really hard to take you serious any more. Whether you can understand it or not posters on here do care about what is going on as regards the BKs.Oh yes ... that's not really a news story for you, is it? You're more interested in a fantastic story about a sham poll of your accolytes on this website saying they want the Murlis to be made public! Excellent!
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I would LOVE to read your attempts to turn this into an article. Go for it sweetchill!!! World Renewal will be heartbroken at not having the scoop!Here's a good news story: The annual panto at GCH is in 10th year I believe...it meant over 10,000 children have had the opportunity to see a Xmas panto FREE and be given an insight to true human values.
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I think sometimes its easy to forget ShivBaba loves equally. Sweetchill, I hope you would stop being provocative and understand many people here have probably been a BK longer than yourself. Please make some positve post about good things BK is doing, I would truly like to know. I know they are doing so.
I knew I sensed a bit of a kindred spirit in you. :D Finally a bit of common sense - BOTH sides of the coin should be shown in the news article section! (What a radical idea). But don't hold your breath. Eugene is still getting excited about something that happened 20 years ago (now there's a hot current news story for you!).
I am sorry the panto is dismissed so readily by many of the posters on this forum - it touches people in a much more real and genuine way in the local community around GCH than many of the petty obsessions on this forum.
And then today it was you who used the events of twenty years ago to make a point, not me. And what was your big point? Just a gratuitous insult. Well, you are welcome to insult me. Frankly, I would rather such as you insulted me than praised me. But to use those events as if they are ancient history and irrelevent and trivial is an insult to her. I am sorry if that seems like I am grandstanding but there has been a long history of BKs trivialising and explaining away what happened to her. Well, you cant. The effects of such actions upon a child are usually permanent and I am sorry but for you to refer to it in such a way I personally find offensive.
And how am I shielding behind it when everyobody knows my name and nobody yours? It was you who just used her to make a jibe at me not the other way round. Anything I wrote about her in my report was with her blessing and she showed more courage than I ever have in allowing me to do such. So, to be blunt, when it comes to her please find another way to insult me.
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sweetchill wrote:My post was referring to YOUR obsession, Eugene. You're the one who pushes her case continually into the limelight so that you can shield behind it to make your jibes. That's quite sad.
Sweetchill, please makes amends.
We read in the papers quite regularly of child sex abusers being brought to justice 20 or even 30s years later, teachers, priests etc. Given that in the case of the BKWSU child sex abuses it happened at two different main centers in India by two different BK pedophiles preying on vulnerable foreign/Western children, it suggests to me some communication or a "ring" within the organization.
- • Why then did the Brahma Kumari Seniors not investigate and report said abuses rather than cover it up? I fully expect you to avoid answering yet again.
I would like to explain why after 20 years this still has relevance in the light of other revelations since, and why it is good that it is publicly documented and discussed, but I would like you to respond to this first.
Of course, I understand that child prostitution and corruption is much more rife in India, the female's position and the concept of shame within a patriarchal society and the misapplication of the theory of karma suppress such issues coming to the public's attention. But aren't the Brahma Kumaris meant to be changing all that, and if so, why not in their own backgarden first?
I cannot really take it in what you are saying here, everyone and his brother does a 'panto'! I don't want to take away from 'panto' and keeping kids amused for an hour or so, but shouldn't BKs be championing something a bit more, errrr ... you know ... yogaishI am sorry the panto is dismissed so readily by many of the posters on this forum - it touches people in a much more real and genuine way in the local community around GCH than many of the petty obsessions on this forum.
Am I to take it you are personaly involved with the 'panto'? Why not do a little ad so we can all come along?
From all my observations I can definitely say that you don't show the basic courtesy of answering members on this forum. I thoroughly understand your respect and regard for BKWSU. I too had and still have. But remember, if you are hurting even a Shudra - that's against Shrimat. And you know, Baba has asked BKs to be more courteous with XBKs.
I hope you study Murlis. If you claim yourself to be a BK (not just for the namesake), then you either owe an answer or just retire from this thread announcing that this is a wrong place for you to be. 7 pages! and nothing meaningful has been achieved. There is so much knowledge to be discussed.
If we are not going to get meaningful answers, what is the purpose is letting this thread grow and waste time and space?
Thanks and Regards.
I've apologised - I am sorry if you don't think I mean it. I am happy to apologise again - if it makes any difference to you.
If you look at the topic of the thread - you'll notice it was to raise the issue of the alleged impartiality of this website. I think it's been a robust discussion, actually (and I've received some "enlightening" answers which have opened my eyes further to some of the other posters on here).
I have answered many questions throughout this thread (even though many have nothing to do with the topic). If people have other specific things they want to challenge me on, then they should start a new thread.
As I have repeated on a number of occasions - I am not an official BK voice on this forum. So I feel no compulsion to answer all questions (many of which are loaded with an agenda) - I am not on trial here (although that would be quite fun, I admit). Yes, I am happy to make clear that I don't have answers for every question put to me - but let me make some points to further clarify a few things:
* My belief is that this website is totally biased with a clear agenda against the BKs. No-one else on this forum thinks that - which for me tells its own story.
* No, I don't think Murlis should be made public
* No, I don't accept that there is some great conspiracy to hide/change the Word of God through revised Murlis (I think it is right and proper that they should be revised).
* I don't know what was investigated with regards to the child abuse claims - but then, no one else on this forum does either. We are all free to make our own judgements about it.
You may think this thread is pointless - but then you can choose not to read it. I think it's probably one of the most revealing threads on this forum (just look at the number of views compared to other threads).
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