avyakt7 wrote:each its own. What I see clearly, others cannot ... it is just a matter of realities ... It is just logic, straight logic out of current scientific theories and most importantly, physics laws. I have not found anybody who is able to tell me why those ideas are wrong, not even a dispute...why the logic is not correct.
OK. I will tell you where you are wrong and where you went wrong. Excuse my directness. We are not talking about subjective issues here, so don't try and reduce the argument to those. We are talking about God's [allegedly] objective versions, are we not? You came onto this forum - and had a hack at the BKWSU Wikipedia article - attempting to edit out the BK concept of "DESTRUCTION". [I came across your work on the Satanist, Vexen Crabtree's webpages and elsewhere. You had your article on Cyclic Time removed from the Wikipedia, right?].
I am challenging you because you represent an element within the BKWSU, a kind of BK, that wants to whitewash away for the general public, uncomfortable facts, such as Destruction
- By setting yourself up as a BK, you are representing an organization and so you need to be conscious of what reflection, what service or disservice you are doing to that organization - or the god [ allegedly] behind it.
To do so, those sorts of BKs - which is increasingly is meaning the highest and most public face of the BKWSU
- are and have to become increasingly dishonest and "tricky". This is entirely contrary to Gyan and Brahmin Principles. You sit there writing is no such things as "Destruction" and even the next moment, Didi Bansy proved a current Murli quote from God Shiva discussion "Destruction". How does that feel?
- How difficult is it to get the Truth out of you and why? I mean this question, it is not rhetorical.
Let us discuss the why? Let us discuss your real and honest feelings about all this. The conflict you feel within. OK. Cut the waffle. You, me and the rest of the Forum all know that God Shiva and the BKWSU predicts that Russia and America are going to have a Nuclear war. Right or wrong? Unless you are going to play the game by the rules - AND BE HONEST - there is no progress. I am asking you for a specific reason. Do the Murlis, does the BKWSU teach Nuclear War between CCCP/USSR/Russia and America? To be honest, I never stated that I did not believe in a Cyclic time. Indeed, you never asked, you just presumed. You committed a typical BK crime of running your own tape recording - the mental tape recording your replay to attempt to re-programme yourself - presuming a negative of a non-BK.
- I asked you the questions ; prove, explain the BKWSU theory [not duck and dive from the questions by throwing up non-sequitors]. Address the anomolies within the BKWSU model.
It is a monumental leap from Poincaré to an atomically identically repeating 5,000 year Cycle. Poincaré specifically states that it is not identical and he is a lot smarter than we are. Ditto, God Shiva and the BKWSU only predict a Nuclear War, a few sinking continents minus service centres and a civil war in India. You are going to find it hard to work out a mathematic equation to square that. So, I am still asking you again if Destruction is destruction as stated here, or a total cosmic Destruction as these scientists are pointing to?
If you want to polish your scientific beliefs, I might even help you. The science of the Cycle, destruction and creation, transformation is very interesting. BUT we need to start from a point of honest. This is about Dharna and Seva first not science.
The Cycle is one thing, how can we settle the yukti of promoting Gyan and Brahmin Principles by acting entirely contrary to Gyan and Brahmin Principles?
OK. One last thing ... first, here is a quote you left on a webpage on 20 June 2006 ;
[ Just what you were doing on a Full Contact Poker website, I will leave you to explain to your sister-in-charge! :shock: ]
avyakt7 wrote:7) We, humans will destroy our planet. We have the means to do it now. There are some signs of this already. Natural disasters will increase in force around the globe, water will soon become scarce, wars and conflicts will thrive and there is nothing we can do about it. Our technology “know how” have created the atomic bomb. Many countries have them. The bombs will be used.
Why edit out Destruction from the high profile Wikipedia article - and deny it here - but then promote or support it and contradict yourself elsewhere? Something is not right.
But it is worth discussing because it is a problem most Western BKs have.