It has never been said in Bhakti that Shiv enters somebody to name him Brahma.
This is understandable as no-one in Bhakti recognises ShivBaba.
shivsena wrote:that is why i am co-relating Bhakti-marg with so called Gyan-marg of BK-PBKs...but i find that both do not tally and compliment each other.
Baba has said ''you may tally with the scriptures, but it is not required.'' In any case ShivBaba explains only the essence of the scriptures and not the expansion, if you attempt to tally all Bhakti with basic and advance Gyan you will chase ghosts and shadows only...
Murli audio 192 Kampil
shivsena wrote:so before we know who is real Brahma we must first answer the question "which is pravritti-marg and which is nivritti-marg"...
''The Father should be introduced to everyone. And the cycle of the world should be also known. The Father doesn’t establish the path of nivritti. The Father didn’t teach Raja Yoga while being in nivritti.
It is not like that the Father is just a point of light. No! If we say [that he is] just a point, it is not pravritti. The soul-point has its pravritti with what? It needs pravritti with the body.
Unless the soul-point enters the body, it is like non-living. So, the Father who teaches Raja Yoga while being on the path of should be introduced to everyone. For example, it has been said that the ones who are in nivritti cannot teach Raja Yoga to those who are in pravritti. So, will the Father Himself who teaches Raja Yoga be in pravritti or will he be in nivritti? He should definitely be in the path of pravritti
. It is not that it will be said that Brahma and Saraswati are in pravritti [with each other]. Saraswati was his daughter. There is no pravritti of the Father and daughter.
Yes, we can say that Brahma and Saraswati who received the title of the Adi Brahma, of the Adi Jagadamba…. Those souls which received the title, after they leave their bodies enter some children and play their final roles. Then, they are in the path of pravritti and play their roles. At that time the Father, the Supreme Soul is revealed through them. That is called ‘the part of the Supreme Soul’ (paramatma); [the part of] the Mother of the World and Father of the World.
This is the seed-couple. So, you should know the cycle of the world and you should introduce the Father. The ones who don’t know the cycle are like animals.''
I have thought on this topic for some time. The Murli statement ''Mothers are the gateway to heaven'' is intriguing.
shivsena wrote:The Sakar Murlis were narrated by mamaa Saraswati in a code manner
You must back up your statements with real facts relating to time, date, place, witnesses, documents, audio material, transcripts.....anything apart from just saying
shivsena wrote:this is what i believe
You have absolutely nothing to even remotely prove the slightest aspect of your thesis....