Dear All participating in this session
I went through the entire conversation. Let me share with you my feeling - this is a shame. Some comments are rather rude, they could have been skipped, but I do understand the frustration that is behind them. Why is it so difficult for PBKs students to give simple answers to simple questions? If it is clear that the information delivered by them are contradictory, why do they try to cover this and do not accept facts? The biography of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit published in AIVV is a hagiography of the same sort as Adi Dev - the story of Brahma Baba. We cannot deny it. The intentions behind it were probably good, it was written out of love and respect for Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. Yet, this fact doesn't make it a real historical source of information as it it full of emotional expressions, it lacks a neutral perspective and what's worse - it doesn't provide with any reference and sources on which it was written. So from the point of view of an intelectual person who needs facts, it is useless. Brothers, please look at things from the neutral perspective, look at facts without judgement and let them speak for themsevelves. Do not try to justify anything and excuse it. It is very frustrating for someone who is looking for a logic answer to a short and clear question "exactly when, where, under whose guidence, under which conditions was the PhD thesis writen by Baba Virendra Dev Dixit". Answering to this question we do not need repeatedly get so affectionate, repeatedly ask questions about how things are dealed with in BKs or admonish people not to spoil the image of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit. This makes things even more suspicious and weird. Last year one of my friends who lives outside Bharat asked questions about that biography and education directly to Baba via e-mail. He did not receive definite answers, so he asked wether he could conduct a research on this and asked for help in contacting him with those who were around Baba Virendra Dev Dixit at the very beginning, so that he could conduct interviews, record them, gather information. He also planned going to places connected with Baba and find there documents. The answer he received suprised him a bit. He was told that those who were at the beginning can not be the sources of the information, becasue they are not PBKs any more. So, he thouth that it's a pity that he cannot gather the information from all the possible sources and gave up the idea of the research. I was also a bit surprised when I learnt about it. Meanwhile that friend of mine tried to verify some facts given in that biography. There are some facts about some married couple living in England now; they were involved in some incidents with those souls from the beginning. That couple is PBK now. They avoided any contact and didn'y give answers to simple questions.
I think that we could make the entire situation healthier if we provide people with simple facts:
1. the clear curriculum of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit education from the preliminary school up to the PhD degree.
2. the curriculum contains:
A. name of the school, place, time when the pupil/student attended the course, the name of the course and the name of the teacher-guide
B. the copy of the diploma/certificate if necessary
C. full details about the PhD post graduate course and thesis
This is very simple and clear and I believe that providing people with such details will satisfy them. Otherwise, if facts are different and it turns out that Baba thought about PhD and wrote a short conspect of what he wanted to research during the course in the future, it should also be written with appologise for making people confused. I don't have this information and cannot provide with them those who demand . But I can see that there are people in this forum who meet with Baba directly. Please clarify this topic finally and post the resume of Baba Virendra Dev Dixit in a clear and consistent form. Everyone remembers his life, so facts can be or shoudl be easily available from Baba Virendra Dev Dixit himself. After all he should definitely remember whether he attanted the entire course (4-5 years) for post graduate PhD and wrote the thesis which was rejected or he simple wanted to enter the post graduate PhD course and prepare a draft of what he will research during the course which is an usual routine in most of universities. Please, make a clear distinction between post graduate education and PhD post graduate education. They are not the same. Usually PhD lasts for 4-5 years and involves a lot of work as an assistant in the university, while regular post graduation studies last for 1-2 years and give simply additional education.
The facts from the Biography:
"Baba Virendra Dev Dixit had entered PBIVV, Paladi centre,2 B, Prabhua park, Ahemadabad for 1st time on 30th Nov 69 after 4-6months, during his research work, after the demise of Dada Lekhraj Brahma the conductor of PBIVV on 18th Jan 69. BK Vedanti attended to him there. "
"Meanwhile the subject for the academic research selected by Baba Dixit was such that he started tallying it with Baba’s Murlis. When the contents of scriptures were tallying with Baba’s Murlis, then he started enjoying the research work. The thesis that emerged contained everything that Baba Dixit understood on his own from ShivBaba’s Murlis."
It has not been stated that he completed the work, but rather that he was doing research. Would a person who became intoxicated with the Divine Knowledge to the extent that he would bring about major changes in BKs world care about the wordly education? Would he really work hard and spend years to get the PhD title, something that is rather against the Shrimat contained in SM?
By the way, I read about Baba Virendra Dev Dixit submitting his PhD thesis to Nirwair Bhai. He who was challenging the BKs, he who was supposed give importance to mothers and kayas in the Yagya, he who was supposed first notice that brothers supressed mother in the Yagya goes to BK Nirwair Bhai and presents him his thesis? Really? Hard to believe, indeed.
Anyway, whatever happened around this biography, it undermmined the credibility of AIVV as a responsible group. I do worry about it, because the history of BKs seems to repeat in AIVV. People cannot receive honest and clear answers to their simple questions about the education curriculum of a person who is alive. What a shame guys. Let's reform.