Dear Shivsena Bhai
arjun wrote:You must remember one. Credit goes to one.
I think this says it all... there is no mention of two, or a combined form with Mama, just remember One Father Shiv. Even if you remember Shiv via Baba Dixit, you remember Shiv in his costume, you don't focus on Baba Dixit the soul... just as you don't remember Brahma Baba or Mama, you remember only One... Manmanabhav! Only One brings unity, NOT TWO
Also, i cannot believe that Father Shiv, would trick His children by speaking of Mama like this, whilst secretly knowing He is combined with her.. this for me would make a complete mockery of Shrimat and the Murli. This path is hard enough, without having your beloved Father, throwing you off the scent, with false instructions and red herrings, this simply wouldn't be right imo.
Then there's the practicality of having a relationship with your Father. As effort maker souls, we are learning to relate to one another as souls within bodies... the whole basis of the Golden and Silver Ages, is to have relationships as souls in bodies... so the no 1 practise of this, is the realtionship we have with Father Shiv, in a body. We won't be floating around literally bodiless in the Golden Age, we will be in the bodiless stage(mentally), but within a body. How do we focus on something, when we don't even know where it is? Where are your combined souls, and how is focusing on a bodiless spirit, going to prepare us for Golden Age relationships with one another?.. it's not... the whole concept imo, is flawed from start to finish... there is absolutely no merit in it. As i keep saying, it is based on Bhakti marg understanding, not Shrimat... in fact it doesn't come anywhere close to Shrimat imo.
Last is fast. Novices gallop faster (i.e. are cleverer) than the older ones. Those who're fully connected with the Father(through remembrance) climb very high(in the path of worship). Everything depends on Yoga. [Mu 4-9-74]
Everything you said about Mama was great and lovely, but unfortunately she left her body before achieving her complete stage, her Yoga power was not enough to save her. Why is it said that Shankar has no role... because he is simply lost in remembrance of Shiv, he has the most powerful remembrance of all, and this is why he becomes no 1. He destroys all his sins through the furnace of Yoga... no one else does this as successfully as Shankar, and this is why he is the no 1 Brahmin, because of his remembrance(Everything depends on Yoga).