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by sita » 19 Jun 2011
We have to remember God in his real form, that is a point of light. God does not have a body of light and might. And about the matter of where we are to remember this point of light, it is said that i don't come in the Subtle Region dweller, i come in the corporeal. Even if we remember corporeal or subtle body it is still body-consiousness.
You may say we have to remember a farista in order to become a farista, but still this will be Shankar, as he is said to be the highest farista and is shown with the most subtle and incorporeal stages. But are we to remember Shankar, who has a body of light or the Supreme Soul Shiv who does not have a body of light. Those who have phisical body, also have subtle bodies. it is said that our perfect form is there in the Subtle Region, waiting for us. Is this perfect form a form of a farista or of a deity? Does God enter a farista or a deity? If someone is Farista, subtle will God enter him? Are faristas pure or impure? Are dieties pure or impure. In whom does God eneter in the pure or in the impure, in a farista, in a deity or in a human, one who churns.
Even if one has left his phisical body, but still has a subtle body is this body-consciousness or not? Even after he has left his body phisically he still remembers it, the subtle body has the same form as the corporeal, isnt' it. Is this good or bad to have a subtle body, without a phisical body, to be like a ghost. Where are these ghosts? They are definitely entering someone.
Instead we can forget our phisical body, even whilst in it and attain a subtle stage, and forget the subtle body also and attain incorporeal stage. Which is higest aim? Are we to become Bap saman and who is Bap, he is God. Is God a point of light or does he have a subtle body, are we to become farista saman. Whom are we to have benefit from - from a farista or from God? In the Gita also it is said that those who remember ghosts have benefit from ghosts and those who remember Me, have benefit from me. Who is this - me.
Ayway, please, provide proofs Mama has become farista. And, please, answer are we to attain the farista stage whilst in our body or are we to leave the phisical body to attain it?
All souls are to become faristas. They are to leave attachment, consiousness of the body, through effort or punishment and gather in the Subtle Region, on their way to Pramdham. Those are to become devtas, who has the aim to become devtas in their life and make the according effort to change from human to a deity. Even if someone is not able to change in the same body, but has had the aim to become a deity, but has left the phisical body, still he has had the aim, so he is reach his aim, is not it. Deities does not have subtle bodies, but pure corporeal bodies. The effort required is the same, to remember the Father. If we remember the incirporeal one, we will reach our aim. The subtle stage is the stage in between, on our way to our highest aim, we are to pass it like a side-scene.
Additionally, it is said, the easiest effort is to remember Narayan. We have to recognize which soul is to become Narayan. Even if he has not achieved his stage yet, we can see his perfect from. It is said we have to invoke our perfect form and also see every soul in his perfect form. In the Subtle Region there are subtle perfect forms and in the corporeal world there are corporeal perfect forms. Which are we to remember - the subtle or corporeal. It is said that the deities are waiting for us in the Subtle Region with the garlands of our perfect stage. There is controvecy that deities are there in the Subtle Region, because Subtle Region is nothing, it is subtle thinking. When we imagine, it is subtle thinking. When we see a corporeal form in his future perfect form, we are going in the Subtle Region.
