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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 31 Jan 2012

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Sharing a important point on personified Ravan.

Av. Vani 19-3-81. "रावण के attraction में तो नहीं आते हो ना .? रावण के बहु -रूपों को अच्छी तरह से जान गए हो ? रावण के भी knowledgeful बन गए हो? Knowledge कम होने के कारण ही रावण अपना बना सकता है . knowledgeful के आगे वो नजदीक भी नहीं आ सकता , चाहे सोने का व हीरे का रूप धारण करे ....रावण को भी आप सब आधे कल्प के मित्र अच्छे लगते हो , इस लिए छोड़ने नहीं चाहता . फिर क्या करेंगे ? ...उसकी मित्रता निभाएँगे?"

"Ravan ki attraction mein toh nahin aate ho naa.? Ravan ke bahu roopon ko acchi terha se jan gaye ho ? Ravan ke bhi knowledgeful ban gaye ho ? Knowledge kum hone ke karan hi Ravan apna banaa sakta hai. knowledgeful ke aage woh najdeek bhi nahin aa sakta, chahe sone ka va hire ka roop dharan kare.....Ravan ko bhi aap sab aadhe Kalpa ke mitra acche lagte ho, iss liye chodne nahin chahata. phir kya karenge? ...uski mitrata nibhaenge?

[meaning: "Does Ravan attract you or not? Have you recognised the various forms of Ravan? Have you become knowledgeful of Ravan? If you have less knowledge then only Ravan can conquer you. If you are knowledgeful then Ravan cannot come near you, whether he comes in golden form or diamond form.....Ravan also likes you all, as you are his friends for half a Kalpa, that is why he does not like to leave you. Then what will you do?....will you remain his friend.?]

In the above Vani, av. Brahma(Mama) is clearly talking to potential 108 shivshakti souls who were personified Ravan's friends for half a Kalpa(shooting period of Dwapur-Kaliyug) due to lack of knowledge and who will recognise Ravan(Godly form of Maya) after churning the Murlis/Vanis, and will have no attraction for his golden or diamond form in future.

The biggest challenge for any PBK is to recognise the above form of Ravan and leave his friendship and accept No. 1 shivshakti (Mama--Ramshivbaba) as combined mat-pita.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya ???

Post by shivsena » 08 Feb 2012

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Quoting another Vani point describing personified Maya:

Av. Vani 5-12-84 says : "(Godly)Maya likes the Kumars(108) best of all. She thinks they should belong to her. But you(108) are brave, are you not? (Godly)Maya is not able to enslave you. For half a Kalpa, (Godly)Maya enslaved you(108) and you lost absolutely everything as a result. This is why you now belong to God(no. 1 shivshakti), and have thus claimed the right to heaven.
Because you(108) are knowledgeable, you(108) are able to recognise all the different forms of Maya."


Again avaykt Brahma(Mama) is emerging the 108(behad ka Kumars) towards the end of behad ka drama and telling them that you (108) were enslaved (intellectually by False AK) by personified Godly Maya for half a Kalpa (from shooting period of Dwapur and Kaliyug) and lost everything and now that you have recognised the personified ShivBaba(no. 1 shivshakti), you (108) have claimed the right to inheritance.

The last statement says that only the knowledgeable(108) will recognise all forms of Maya. (including subtle Godly Maya).

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 12 Feb 2012

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Sharing a very interesting Murli point about "Maya".

Murli 3-5-72 says: "माया श्रीमत को बदल कर , मनंमत को मिक्स कर , उसको ही श्रीमत समजने की बुद्धि देती है ; माया के वश मनमत को भी श्रीमत समजने लग पड़ते हैं ; इस लिए परखने की शक्ति सदेव काम में लगाओ ; कहाँ परखने में भी अंतर होने से अपने आप को नुक्सान कर देते हैं ."

"Maya Shrimat ko badal kar, manmat ko mix kar, usko hi Shrimat samajne ki buddhi deti hai; Maya ke vash manmat ko bhi Shrimat samajne lag padte hain; iss liye parakhne ki shakti sadev kaam mein lagaao; kahan parakhne mein bhi antar hone se apne aap ko nuksaan kar dete."

[meaning: " (Godly)Maya changes Shrimat and mixes it with her own(AK) and gives it as Shrimat; under the influence of (Godly)Maya, manmat(advance knowledge) is also interpreted as Shrimat and so the power of discrimination should always be used; if this discrimination power is not correctly used, then it leads to a loss."]

The above Murli point clearly points to a personified form of Godly Maya who mixes her own manmat(advance clarifications) with Shrimat and instructs the souls(PBKs) to follow it as Shrimat and this has to be judged by each (pbk)soul by his own power of discrimination, which if not correctly used can lead to a loss.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 16 Feb 2012

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Murli 18-4-08 says: "माया को बेटी कहेते हैं , क्यों की मदद करती है ....माया जानती है की कल्प पहेले वाले कौन कौन है जिन्होंने मुझे जीत बाबा का तरफ लिया ...वह भी सायानी है" .

"Maya ko beti kahete hain, kyon ki madad karti hai....Maya jaanti hai ki Kalpa pahele wale kaun kaun hai jinone mujhe jeet Baba ka taraf liya...wah bhi sayani hai."

[meaning: " Maya(First creation) is called daughter because she helps (in seperating the surya-vanshi rajdhani from chandra-vanshi rajdhani)....Maya(Godly) knows who are the (108) children who have won over her and taken the side of ShivBaba(ie no. 1 shivshakti)....she(Godly Maya) is also clever"]

The above Murli point clearly talks about personified Godly Maya who helps ShivBaba( no. 1 shivshakti) in seperating the two rajdhanis and she also knows the 108 souls of the last Kalpa who have won her and got the title of mayajeet-jagatjeet.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 20 Feb 2012

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In Hindu scriptures, Maya is described as maid-servant of God.

"So daasi Raghubeer kee": ''Maya is the maidservant of the Lord'' (Tulsi Ramayana).
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Sharing a attachment about "Deceptive Maya" from the sikh-website http://www.gurbani.org

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Brothers are requested to read/churn the article and decide who is this Godly Maya who creates an illusion of attachment to the physical body in this Sangamyugi drama.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 24 Feb 2012

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In avaykt Vani 13-10-92 (under group 3) avaykt Mama-brahma says:
"सीता के माफिक माया को पहचान ना सको , ऐसा धोका तो नहीं खाते हो ??
धोका खाने वाले चन्द्र-वंशी बन जाते हैं ...तो अछी तरह माया को पहचानने वाले हो ना ...बाप (no. 1 shivshakti) को भी पहचाना और माया (ishwariya roop ie Baba Dixit) को भी अछी तरह से पहचाना ?"

"Sita ke mafik Maya ko pehchan naa sako--aisa dhoka toh nahin khate ho ??
Dhoka khane wale chandra-vanshi ban jaate hain...toh achi terha Maya ko pehchanne wale ho naa...Bap(no. 1 shivshakti) ko bhi pehchana aur Maya(ishwariya roop ie Baba Dixit) ko bhi achi terha se pehchana."

[ "Like sita you(108) also cannot recognise (Godly)Maya, do you(108) get deceived (by Godly Maya)??...Those(PBKs) who get deceived(by Godly Maya) become chandravanshis(moon dynasty)....so you(108) recognise (Godly)Maya very well....Have you have recognised the Father(combined with mother no. 1 shivshakti) and (Godly)Maya as well"???]

In the above Vani point avaykt brahma-Mama is speaking to potential 108 souls and reminding them about recognition of Father(combined with no. 1 shivshakti) and also about the recognition of Ishwariya roop of Maya(Baba Dixit)...and those(PBKs) who get deceived by this Godly Mayavi roop will then be labelled as chandra-vanshis.(moon-dynasty brahmins)

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 28 Feb 2012

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Murli 24-11-68 says: "जो अपने को ब्रह्मण समजते हैं , माया भी उनसे ही लडती है ."
"Jo apne ko brahmin(108) samajte hain, Maya(ishwariya) bhi unse hi ladti hai."
[" Those who think themselves to be (true-full cast 108 ) brahmins, Maya (Godly) also fights with them."]

In the above point, Shiva is clearly emerging the 108 full-caste brahmins and telling them that Godly Maya will fight with them(108) only...Godly Maya does not fight with half-cast brahmins(BKs) who believe only the 5 vices form of Maya and have never fallen in the trap of mayavi AK.....and Godly Maya also does not fight with the PBKs who are living under the spell of Godly Maya....but in the end, Godly Maya will fight only with 108 true full-cast brahmins--shivshakti pandavsena, who have recognised the combined mat-pita(no. 1 shivshakti) and Godly Maya and have escaped from the clutches of mayavi advance knowledge.

The above point also proves that Maya is not just 5 vices (as BKs-PBKs think)....but there is a definite personified form of Godly Maya, who knows the future 108 king souls, who will fight Maya with weapons of knowledge.(Murli-Vani points).

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 01 Mar 2012

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Murli 12-6-03 says: "माया-रावण ने खाता (account) ख़राब कर दिया है . माया ने सबको घाटे में डाला है , इसलिए कंगाल बन गए हैं ....घाटा होते होते कौड़ी-तुल्य बन गए हैं ....दुनिया में इस घाटे और फायदे का किसी को पता नहीं है ."

"Maya-Ravan ne khata(account) kharab kar diya hai. Maya ne sabko ghate mein daala hai, isliye kangaal ban gaye hain.....ghata hote hote kaudi-tulya ban gaye hain.....duniya mein iss ghate aur fayde ka kissi ko pataa nahin hai."

[meaning: "Maya-Ravan has spoiled everyone's(PBKs) account. Maya has incurred loss to everybody, that is why everyone has become insolvent (meaning nobody knows the truth)....incurring repeated losses has made them kaudi-tulya (empty)....nobody in this world( of PBKs) knows about how loss and profit is incurred.'' ]

The above Murli point is clearly describing the PBK world where the corrupted advance knowledge is giving losses to every pbk and making them insolvent (by giving them wrong explanation of Murlis) and no one in this world of PBKs seems to know about this fact.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 05 Mar 2012

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Murli 28-12-99 says: "माया का no.1 कर्त्तव्य है पतित बनाना ."
"Maya ka no.1 kartavya hai patit banana."
[meaning: "Maya's no.1 duty is to make impure"]

Every bk-pbk knows that Maya (5 vices) makes all souls impure from Copper Age in broad drama.....but who is this Godly Maya in Sangamyugi drama, who makes the intellect of all souls patit(impure) by narrating ambigious and completely contradictory explanations of Murli points in the form of Advanced Knowledge and fulfilling her no.1 duty.....This Godly mayavi partdhari is none other than Baba Dixit(Krishna) who has realised his part as first creation(after studying the Murlis) and is playing his part perfectly to make the PBKs impure with his impure creation AK.

Baba Dixit himself says in cds, that one who has come to know his part then he can test others...so Baba Dixit (first creation Krishna) is hinting in a subtle way that he is taking a test of PBKs to see who sees through his false teachings(jhooti Gita) and can confront him with weapons of knowledge from Murlis/Vanis.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 07 Mar 2012

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Avaykt Vani 24-9-92 says: "यह सदा याद रखो की आजकल ड्रामा अनुसार असत्य का राज्य है और असत्य के राज्य-अधिकारी प्रेसिडेंट रावण हैं . उसके कितने शीश (heads) है , अर्थात असत्य की शक्ति कितनी महान है . उसके मंत्री-महामंत्री भी बड़े महान है . उसके judge और वकील भी बड़े होशियार है ."

"Yah sadaa Yaad rakho ki aajkal drama anusaar asatya ka rajya hai aur asatya ke rajya-adhikari president Ravan hain. Uske kitne sheesh(heads) hai, artharth asatya ki shakti kitni mahaan hai. Uske mantri-mahamantri bhi bade mahaan hai. Uske judge aur vakil bhi bade hoshiyaar hai."

[meaning: "Always remember that nowadays in (Behad ka)drama, there is kingdom of untruth and the president of this kingdom is Ravan. The power of untruth(Ravan) is so great as he has many heads( intellect of 10 heads). He has many great ministers and judges and lawyers who are also very clever.(in propagating untruth as whole truth).]

The above Vani spoken by avaykt Brahma( Mama) clearly refers to some soul in the behad ka drama, who is playing the role of Ravan (who has invented Advanced Knowledge ) and is propagating it as truth.....and is assisted in this task by his faithful ministers-judges and lawyers.(who never tally Advanced Knowledge with Murlis and blindly accept it as truth.)

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 09 Mar 2012

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Murli 26-1-06 says: "बाबा तो इस बेहद के ड्रामा का राज समजाते हैं ."
"Baba to iss behad ke drama ka raaj samjate hain."
[" Baba explains the secrets of this Sangamyugi subtle drama (in Sakar Murlis)"]

Murli 1-11-05 says: "यह बेहद के ड्रामा का राज तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में है , और कोई भी नहीं जानते ."
"Yeh behad ke drama ka raaj tum bachon ki buddhi mein hai, aur koi bhi nahin jaante."
[" This Sangamyugi subtle drama is only in the intellect of you children(108 true brahmins), nobody(bk-pbk) else knows."]

The above two points clearly say that whatever is narrated in Sakar Murlis is pertaining to the behad ka Sangamyugi drama only and this will be understood only by 108 true brahmins souls.

So all points narrated in Murlis/Vanis (posted in this thread) about Maya-Ravan describe a partdhari personality Godly Maya, who can be recognised only by churning these points and fought with weapons of knowledge to become mayajeet-jagatjeet.

IMO, [पहेले चाहिए मुरली-वाणी को मनन-चिंतन मंथन करने की शक्ति ... फिर चाहिए परखने की शक्ति ... फिर चाहिए निर्णय शक्ति ... फिर चाहिए निर्भय शक्ति ... और अंत में चाहिए सामना करने की शक्ति ... तब ही मायाजीत--जगतजीत का title मिलेगा .]
[Pahele chahiye Murli-Vani ko manan-chintan manthan karne ki shakti...phir chahiye parakhne ki shakti.....phir chahiye nirnay shakti.... phir chahiye nirbhay shakti.... aur phir chahiye samnaa karne ki shakti.....tab hi mayajeet-jagatjeet ka title milegaa.]

[First one must have the churning power of Murlis/Vanis ...then have discriminating power to realise the Godly form of Maya....then have the power to decide...then have fearlessness.... and then finally have the power to face and fight Godly Maya with weapons of knowledge, to become mayajeet-jagatjeet.]

"मायाजीत(108) बनना कोई मासी का घर थोड़े ही है ."
"Mayajeet banna koi masi ka ghar thode hi hai."
["It is not a aunt's house(easy job) to become mayajeet(108)"]

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 12 Mar 2012

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Murli 13-12-01 says: "रावण-राज्य में बुद्धि wrong काम ही करती है , क्यों की बुद्धि को ताला लग जाता है " . माया ने सबको ताला लगा दिया है ".
"Ravan-rajya mein buddhi wrong kaam hi karti hai, kyon ki buddhi ko talla lag jaata hai". Maya ne sabko talla lagaa diya hai".
[meaning: " In Ravan Rajya(pbk world) the intellect always works in the wrong way, because the intellect is locked. (Godly)Maya blocks the intellect of all (PBKs by giving corrupted body-conscious advance knowledge)"]

The above point is spoken by Shiva by emerging the PBK world of the behad ka drama where the Godly Maya(Baba Dixit) blocks the intellect of PBKs by giving corrupted advance knowledge and taking them on the body-conscious path by telling them to remember shiv in a deh-dhari.....PBKs can come out of this trap only by reading and churning the Murlis/Vanis repeatedly.

The 5 vices make the intellect blocked from dwapuryug onwards, so that one cannot rise above the body...and that shooting is done by PBKs in Sangamyug, who cannot rise above the corrupted body-conscious advance knowledge.

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Post by shivsena » 14 Mar 2012

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Murli 13-1-06 says: "माया बड़ी जबरदस्त है . माया ऐसा बेपरवाह बना देती है , अहंकार में ले आती है , बात मत पूछों ... माया एकदम worth not a penny बना देती है ."

"Maya badi jabardast hai. Maya aisa beparvah banaa deti hai, ahankar mein le aati hai, baat mat poochon....Maya ekdam worth not a penny banaa deti hai."

[ " (Godly)Maya is very powerful. (Godly)Maya makes one so complacent and egoistic, don't ask ...(Godly) Maya makes(PBKs) worth not a penny."]

The above point is emerging the pbk world, where Godly Maya is very powerful and makes the PBKs so complacent and egoistic that they stop reading the Murlis/Vanis and believe only what Godly Maya(Baba Dixit) says....Godly Maya makes the souls worth not a penny by giving them corrupted body-conscious advance knowledge.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 15 Mar 2012

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Murli 8-5-03 says: " माया सबको नास्तिक बनाती है ....बाप को भूलने के कारण आपस में लड़ते-झगड़ते हैं ."
" Maya sabko nastik banati hai....Bap ko bhulne ke karan apas mein ladte-jagadte hain."

[" (Godly) Maya makes all (PBKs) nastik(atheist)....By forgeting the Father (no. 1 shivshakti--combined mother-Father) children are fighting amongst themselves"]

The above Murli point is clearly describing the state of the pbk family, where Godly Maya has made all PBKs nastik(atheist) by teaching them that a deh-dhari is the Sakar form of GOD-ShivBaba(Bhagwan) and to remember that dehdhari alone.....and the body-conscious advance knowledge has made the PBKs forget the combined mat-pita(no. 1 shivshakti) and so the children of both orgs. are fighting amongst themsleves.

Another Murli point says:
" जो रचीएता और रचना के राज को नहीं जानता वो है नास्तिक, सिर्फ ब्रह्मण ही आस्तिक हैं ".
"jo rachieta aur rachna ke raaj ko nahin jaanta woh hai nastik, sirf brahman hi aastik hain".

[" those(BKs-PBKs) who do not know the secret of the Creator(Mama-ShivBaba) and his creation(Krishna-VD) are nastik(atheist), only brahmins (108) are aastik."(theist)]

The characteristic of the nastik souls is clearly defined by the above Murli point, which is applicable to the behad ka drama only(bk-pbk family), wherein no one knows who is the creator(Mama-ShivBaba) and his first creation(Krishna-VD) of this behad ka Sangamyugi drama.....this raaj(secret) will be known only to 108 true brahmin souls, who are the only real theists in the whole world.

So, Maya(5 vices) does not make the outside world nastik, as the whole world remembers GOD in some way or the other....but it is the belief of a soul, which makes the soul nastik or aastik.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 18 Mar 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli 2-11-99 says: " जैसे बाप बलवान है , वैसे माया भी बड़ी बलवान है ... इतनी बलवान है , जो सारी दुनिया को वैश्यालय में धकेल दिया है , इसलिए इसमें बहुत खबरदारी रखनी होती है ."

" Jaise Bap balwan hai, vaise Maya bhi badi balwan hai...itni balwan hai ,jo saari duniya ko vaishyalaya mein dhakel diya hai, issliye isme bahut khabardari rakhni hoti hai."

[" Just as Father is very powerful, (Godly)Maya is also very powerful....(Godly)Maya is so powerful, that it makes the whole (pbk) world into a house of poison (by narrating corrupt advance knowledge)...so one has to be very careful in this regard."]

The above Murli point is clearly describing the state of the pbk world of behad ka drama, where all powerful Godly Maya(Baba Dixit) is making the pbk world into a house of poison by narrating corrupt AK.

Maya (5 vices) makes the whole world a vaishyalaya, from Dwapur yug onwards in the broad drama...while Godly Maya makes the whole pbk world a vaishyalaya, by corrupt advance knowledge in the Sangamyugi drama. (subtle shooting. )

shivsena.

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