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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 25 Mar 2012

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Sharing a interesting and important point on Maya from avaykt Vani.

Av. Vani 1-2-76, says : "माया भी जानी - जानन हार रूप में आती है ... वो भी जानती है कि इनं ब्रह्मिण आत्माओं का मूख्य आधार बुद्धि-योग है ... बुद्धि-योग द्वारा ही बाप से मिलन मना सकते हैं ....तो माया भी पहेले-पहेले बुद्धि पर वार करती है ".
"Maya bhi jaani-janan-haar roop mein aati hai... woh bhi jaanti hai, ki inn Brahmin atmaon ka mukhya adhaar buddhi-Yoga hai....buddhi-Yoga dwara hi Bap se milan manaa sakte hain....toh Maya bhi pahele-pahele buddhi par vaar karti hai".

[meaning: "Maya(Godly) also comes in the form of knower of things....she also knows that Brahmin souls(108) main asset is power of intellect....by divine intellect they have intellectual connection with Father(combind with mother jagdamba)...that is why Maya first attacks the intellect.(by giving corrupted advance knowledge."]

The above Vani point is clearly describing the Godly Maya (who also knows everything)...Maya(Baba Dixit's part) also knows that the main asset of Brahmins(108) is their intellect and that true Brahmins souls(108) do not require any Chariot(body) to remember....they remember the Father (combined shivshakti) through their intellect...so Maya attacks their intellect first by giving them false Advanced Knowledge to take them away from combined mother-Father.(no. 1 shivshakti jagdamba)

Avaykt Brahma(Mama) has forseen the part of jani-janan-haar Maya and her misleading Advanced Knowledge and is giving subtle hints to potential 108 souls about the same.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 01 Apr 2012

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Murli 15-2-01, says: "माया ने तुमको फूल (मुर्ख) बना दिया है ; अप्रैल फूल कहेते हैं ना !"
"Maya ne tumko fool(murkh) banaa diya hai; april fool kahete hain naa!"
(meaning: ''Maya makes a fool out of you ; like it is said april fool".)

In Murli 22-9-05, it is said : "माया बिलकुल अंधा बना देती है ".
"Maya bilkul andhaa banaa deti hai".
(meaning "Maya makes you totally blind.")

Who is this 'Maya' which Shiva is referring to in the above Murlis??

It is obvious that Shiva is referring to some soul, who is playing a mayavi role in this behad ka drama (during the shooting period ), who makes a blind fool of every pbk by presenting corrupted AK as truth, and that is why 1st april is celebrated as fool's day, as a rememberence of what happened in Sangamyug.....and only 108 rudra souls escape the mayavi clutches by continous deep study of Murlis/Vanis. ("saraa madaa padayee par hai.")

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 07 Apr 2012

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Murli 1-4-90 says: "माया पहेला वार बुद्धि पर ही करती है ... बाप से बुद्धियोग तोड़ देती है , जिससे ऊपर से नीचे गिरते जाते हैं ... देह-धारी से बुद्धियोग अटक पड़ता है , तो बाप से विप्रीत -बुद्धि हुए ना ... तुमको प्रीत रखनी है एक विचित्र-विदेही बाप से ... देह-धारी से प्रीत रखना नुक्सान-कारक है ."

"Maya pahela vaar buddhi par hi karti hai...Bap se buddhiyog todd deti hai, jisse upar se niche girte jaate hain...Deh-dhari se buddhiyog atak padti hai, toh Bap se vi-preet buddhi hue naa....tumko preet rakhni hai Ek vichitra-videhi Bap se....Deh-dhari se preet rakhna nuksaan-karak hai."

[meaning: "Maya(Godly) first attacks the intellect only....Maya breaks the intellectual connection with Father(combined shiv-shakti), as a result they(PBKs) keep on falling... the intellect gets tangled in the body(of Baba Dixit), so they (PBKs) become vi-preet buddhi from Father (combined shiv-shakti)....you (108) should have love only for vichitra--bodiless Father(ie combined shivshakti-Mama in farishta stage)....loving the body (Baba Dixit) is a loss-making exercise."]

The above point should be read by all PBKs repeatedly and churned as to who is this Maya(Godly) who first breaks the connection with Father (combined shivshakti) by giving ambigious AK and then attaching their intellect to a deh-dhari (Baba Dixit)....and it also directs the 108 to have love with vichitra-videhi Bap (combined no. 1 shivshakti) and not with any deh-dhari.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 12 Apr 2012

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Avaykt Vani 23-5-74 says: " माया भी वर्त्तमान समय रोयल पुरुषार्थी कि माला बनाने में लगी हुई है ... अपने मंडके बहुत अच्छी तरह से और तीव्री पुरुषार्थ से दूंढ रही है . इसलिए माया के मंडके कि माला नहीं बनना .. अगर ऐसे माया के मंडके के प्रभाव में आ गए , तो विजय माला के मंडके से किनारे हो जायेंगे .
आज-कल दोनों ही माला : एक माया कि और दूसरी विजयमाला बाप की , इनं दोनों का selection बहुत तेजी से हो रही है .. ऐसे समय में हर सेकंड चारो और attention चाहिए , समझा ?


" Maya bhi vartaman samay royal purusharthy ki malaa banane mein lagi hui hai....apne mandke bahut acchi terha se aur teevri purusharth se doondh rahi hai. Issliye Maya ke mandke ki malla nahin banana...agar aise Maya ke mandke ke prabhav mein aa gaye, to vijay malaa ke mandke se kinare ho jaayenge. Aaj-kal dono hi malaien: ek Maya ki aur doosri vijaymala bap ki, inn dono ka selection bahut teji se ho rahi hai..Aise samay mein har second charo aur attention chahiye. samjhaa ?"

[" In the present time, (Godly) Maya also is trying to make the rosary of royal purusharthis (effort-making brahmins)...she is making a good and fast effort of finding such royal effort-makers (by narrating her manthan - AK )...that is why do not try to become a part of Maya's rosary...If you get impressed by such souls, then you will not be able to come in the rosary of Father's 108...Nowadays both rosarys : one is (Godly) Maya's and other is Father's vijaymala, these two are being selected very fast..so in such times every second attention (on interpretation of Murlis) is required...understand." ?? ]

The above lines of avaykt Vani spoken by avaykt Mama(brahma) clearly issues a warning to brahmin souls about the Godly Maya's part which started from 1974 (the year when Baba Dixit first realised his mayavi Krishna's part and began narrating his AK manthan)....from 1974 to 1976, Baba Dixit went to various houses of BKs personally and narrated his advance manthan to souls and finally in 1976 a small group of 55 brahmins (breakway BKs) made a sangatan in Delhi and accepted Baba Dixit as Deh-dhari Shankar in practical....immediately after that Baba Dixit went underground for 5 years and the group of so called PBKs also dis-integrated and then finally when Baba Dixit's Father left his mortal body, that Baba Dixit came back to Kampil and started preaching his AK from 1981-82.

The above lines also clearly indicate that Maya is not 5 vices but is definitely a soul (first creation Krishna) who has been given the mayavi part as per behad ka drama to fool the PBKs and to take them away from the Father's real rosary of 108.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 17 Apr 2012

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Murli 6-1-69 says: "ज्ञान और अज्ञान कि लडाई चलती है ... ज्ञान है बाप और अज्ञान है माया ... यह लडाई बहुत तीखी है ."

"Gyan aur agyan ki ladayee chalti hai...Gyan hai Bap aur agyan hai Maya...yeh ladayee bahut teekhi hai."

[meaning: " there is fight between knowledge and ignorance(Bhakti)...knowledge is Father(shiv combined with shakti) and ignorance is Maya (AK)...this fight is very bitter."]

The above Murli point spoken in 1969 describes the future fight between Gyan-knowledge(sacchi Gita) and agyan--ignorance(jhooti Gita--AK) in this behad ka drama.

PBKs would interpret that this fight is between BKs(ignorance) and PBKs( who have knowledge of Chariot)...the two groups(bk-pbk) are fighting over the Chariot.....but i feel that the real fight will come in next few years and it will be between 108 (Gyan) and 16000(agyan) who will fight as to who is the personified form of Shiva....is it VD(Chariot) or is it Mama( no. 1 shivshakti.)....this is the final exam paper.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 01 May 2012

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Murlis 14-6-03 says: " माया दुःखधाम बनाती है ."
" Maya dukhdham banati hai."
[" (Godly)Maya makes a sorrowful world (in the behad ka drama)."]

The above simple Murli point can be interpreted in 2 ways depends on which drama (hadh or behad) one applies.

If Maya is considered as 5 vices, then the point is applicable to the broad drama where Maya(5 vices) starts making the souls body-conscious and marks the beginning of the sorrowful world for 2500 years.

If Maya's Godly form (Baba Dixit's part) is recognised in the behad ka drama, then it is very clear to see how the advance knowledge is making the souls body-conscious (by teaching the PBKs to remember shiv in physical body) and making the pbk world into a sorrowful world.....souls who have recognised this mayavi part, will then sit at home and read the Murlis and Vanis and will never go on a jismani yatra(bodily journey) to meet the deh-dhari dharm guru, who is teaching hatyoga and making the pbk world into a subtle sorrowful world.....without the shooting of subtle dukhdham in Sangamyug it is not possible for the physical dukhdham to be repeated in the broad drama.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 06 May 2012

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Murli 29-5-88 says: " देह-अभिमानी बनना माना माया का होना . देही -अभिमानी बनना अर्थात बाप का बनना . यह बड़ी सुक्ष्म बात है ."

" Deh-abhimani banana manaa Maya ka hona. Dehi-abhimani banana artharth bap ka banana.Yeh badi sukhma baat hai."

[" Body-conscious means you become dedicated(attached) to Maya (Godly form--who teaches you to remember shiv in a physical body). Soul-conscious means that you become dedicated(attached) to Father (no. 1 shivshakti--avaykt Mama, who teaches you to become avaykt farishtas)....this is a very subtle thing to understand."]

The above Murli point when interpreted in a subtle manner is describing how a soul in Sangamyug can become deh-abhimani(body-conscious) by being dedicated(attached) to body-conscious advance knowledge invented by mayavi partdhari Baba Dixit....and how one can become soul-conscious(dehi-abhimani) by remembering videhi Mama ( as avaykt farishta).

Whenever the word ''Maya'' comes in Murlis or Vanis, BKs-PBKs interpret Maya as 5 vices of the broad drama....PBKs cannot see it from the behad ka point of view, which is describing a Godly Maya in the behad ka drama, which is making their intellect patit(impure) by narrating patit-impure advance knowledge in the name of truth.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 16 May 2012

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Murli 8-11-88 says: "माया ने मनुष्य की बुद्धि बिलकुल dead कर दी है . माया बड़ा धोका देती है ...माया है ही धोकेबाज़ . माया से liberate करना यह सिर्फ बाप का ही काम है ."

"Maya ne manushya ki buddhi bilkul dead kar di hai. Maya badaa dhoka deti hai...Maya hai hi dhokebaaz. Maya se liberate karna yeh sirf Bap ka hi kaam hai."

[" Maya(Godly) has made the intellect of humans(PBKs) absolutely dead. (Godly)Maya deceives a lot....(Godly)Maya is a deceiver. To liberate souls from Maya(deceiver) is the duty of Father (combined with mother no. 1 shivshakti.)]

The above Murli point is not describing Maya (the 5 vices) but is describing Godly form of Maya(Baba Dixit's part) as the great deceiver who has made the intellect of humans (PBKs) absolutely dead by giving corrupted AK.... and to liberate souls from this Godly Maya is the duty of Father (combined mat-pita ie no. 1 shivshakti).

Bhakti-marg scriptures never describes Maya as 5 vices....Bhakti-marg always describes Maya as the great deceiver (great illusionist) as per the famous poet Kabir's dohas :" Maya maha thugni hai hum jaani".("Maya is a great deceiver, i know.")

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 21 May 2012

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Sharing a Vani point which describes the 4 forms of Maya.

Avaykt Vani 22-11-87 says : " भिन्न -भिन्न रूप से माया वार करने के लिए , आदि से अब तक आती रहेती है ...कभी रोयल रूप में आती , कभी प्रख्यात रूप में आती , कभी गुप्त रूप में आती और कभी artificial ईश्वरीय रूप में आती ."

" Bhinn--bhinn roopse Maya vaar karne ke liye, adi se ab tak aati raheti hai...kabhi royal roop mein aati, kabhi prakhyat roop mein aati, kabhi gupt roop mein aati aur kabhi artificial ishwariya roop mein aati."

["Maya comes in a variety of forms (in front of BKs-PBKs) from the beginning till the end....sometimes it comes in royal form (in the form of laziness--alasya and complacency (albelapan)....sometimes Maya comes in famous well-known form ( 5 vices known to all BKs-PBKs)...sometimes Maya comes in incognito form and sometimes Maya comes in artificial Godly form."]

The above point is clearly describing the 4 forms of Maya which will confront all BKs-PBKs in their student life and one has to identify/ fight/ overcome all these 4 forms of Maya, if one wishes to get the title of mayajeet--jagatjeet.

Bk-Pbk brothers are requested to share their views(in the discussing-debating section) about who is the incognito form of Maya and who is the artificial Godly form of Maya described in the above Vani point by avaykt brahma.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 06 Jun 2012

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A warning to all PBKs, about the ishwariya roop of Maya, was given way back in 1971 (when the Godly mayavi part of Baba Dixit had not yet started.)

Avaykt Vani 9-4-71 says: " ईश्वरीय रूप से माया ऐसा सामने आएगी , जो उनको परखने की बहुत जरूरत पड़ेगी . कोई ईश्वरीय रूप से माया अपना साथी बनाने की कोशिश करेगी ".

"Ishwariya roop se Maya aisa samne aayegi, jo unko parakhne ki bahut jaroorat padegi. Koi ishwariya roop se Maya apna sathi banane ki koshish karegi".

[" Maya will come in such a Godly form that to recognise it, one must have the power of discrimination. Godly Maya will try to make you a companion."]

The above Vani point is a clear warning given to future PBKs, who will fail to recognise the Godly form of Maya (Baba Dixit) and will believe blindly that Deh-dhari Baba Dixit is God personified.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 05 Jul 2012

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Sharing some interesting notes about Ravan which i read on the internet.
The description about Ravan in Bhakti-marg below perfectly fits on the Ravan-partdhari in Sangamyug.

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Lord Brahma's son is sage pulastya. sage Pulastya's son is Visrasrava. Visrasrava's son is Ravan. Since Ravan is Brahma's great grandson he is also called Ravana Brahma. Ravan has written 'Ravan Samhita' which details astrology, various mantras and also tantras for curing diseases. The famous Shiva tandava stotram is written by Ravan only.

Lord Shiva himself told that Ravan is the greatest bhakt among all his disciples. In other words, the status of greatest Shiv bhakt to Ravan was granted by lord Shiva only. ( Baba Dixit is the greatest shiv-bhakt in the Godly family as he was the first soul to study/churn/understand the Murlis of Shiva and realised his part, that he is destined to play the role of Ravan.)

While often thought of mainly as the infamous 10-headed demon, Ravana was also a notable scholar of the Vedas (Sakar Murlis). A widely known metaphorical interpretation of Ravana's having ten heads is that the heads are a symbolic way to show the world about his knowledge. He was fully aware of the contents of the Shastras(Sangamyugi scriptures). His knowledge of the six Shastras as well as his knowledge of the four Vedas, ten Holy Scriptures in all, is by this interpretation considered the inner meaning of the belief that Ravana had ten heads. (this perfectly fits on the Ravan-partdhari Baba Dixit who is a notable scholar of Sakar Murlis (vedas of the behad ka drama)

Ravana even knew that Rama was Narayana (Lord Vishnu) himself, who had come in human form. However, since there was no other way for him to reach to Narayana, he had to cultivate wanton wickedness, violence and hatred, and invite Ram to kill him. Of course, this might be called a type of devotion that is stupid and infamous. But his inner aim was to cross the ocean of birth and death, through that act of self-abnegation and surrender to Narayana. (this also perfectly fits on Ravan-partdhari who invented false, wicked, body-conscious advance knowledge, which sparked voilence and hatred between the BKs and PBKs )

Ravana was a cross of Brahmin and Daitya thus attaining a status of BrahmaRakshasa. Even though he was partly Brahmin and partly Rakshas, Rama praised Ravana as Mahabrahmin. (this also a rememberence of Ravan-partdhari in Sangamyug, who became a brahmin by birth(reading the Murlis) , but by his wicked actions and preaching body-conscious advance knowledge, he became a daitya(demon) and so attained the title of Brahma-rakshasa.)


(interpretations in blue are my views.)

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 15 Jul 2012

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A comparison between the Ravan-rajya described in the Bhakti scriptures and what is happening in the Ravan-rajya of the Sangamyugi world.

Every Hindu is well versed with the epic "Ramayana" in which mayavi Ravan(a great shiv-bhakt) puts on a face of a sadhu and abducted sita and then kept her in Ravan-rajya ...i feel that this mythological story does not fit into the bk Ravan-rajya at all....but it fits very well on Aivv where part-dhari mayavi Ravan has abducted the pbk souls(sitas) wearing the face of a sadhu and made the sitas(souls) vi-mukh from Ram parampita paramatma (no. 1 shiv-shakti)....and now most PBKs are experiencing dukh in Ravan's jail(Dukhdham) ...those who got fed up and recognised Ram ShivBaba (Mama) have left the jail, while those who have closed all doors of lokik life are staying on, in the hope that someday someone will come and release them.

Also Ravan had two younger brothers...one was '' Vibhishan'' and the other was "Kumbhakaran"..."Brother ''vibhishan'' was younger to Ravan and was always a Ram devotee , and he never agreed to Ravan's abduction of sita and revolted to Ravan's views about Ram, so much so, that Ravan banished him from his kingdom and he left and joined Ram's army.......but the younger brother "kumbhakaran" was always in deep sleep ( of ignorance) and he got up from his slumber only, when he was woken up by Ravan and told to go to the battlefield and fight Ram.....so imo, i feel that the mythological description of Ravan and his brothers fits very well on the pbk Ravan-rajya and not on the bk-Ravan-rajya (who are not at all interested in knowledge but have only commercial interests.)....so all potential 108 are "Vibhishan"(Ram bhakt) who are in pbk Ravan-rajya, until they are banished from entering the pbk mini-madhubans.....while the rest of PBKs(16,000) are kumbhakaran, who are sleeping in ignorance about who is Ramshivbaba--Mama(no. 1 shivshakti), and they will wake up only in the end when the trumpets of revelation are blown by 108 shivshaktis.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 26 Jul 2012

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Murli 11-4-05 says: "रावण-राज्य में सब मुदमती हो जाते हैं, क्यों की देह-अभिमान हैं ना. मुदमती जो होंगे वो देह को ही याद करते रहेंगे..देह से ही प्यार रखेंगे."
"Ravan-rajya mein sab mudmati ho jaate hain kyon ki Deh-abhiman hain naa. Mudmati jo honge, woh deh ko hi Yaad karte rahenge..deh se hi pyar rakhenge."

[" In Ravan-rajya all become fools because of body-consciousness. Those who are fools, they will remember only the body, will have love only for the body".]

The above Murli point clealy refers to the pbk Ravan-rajya of the behad ka drama, where PBKs are being made fools by their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit who teaches them to remember shiv in his body and have love for his body only....the above point is not applicable to bk-Ravan-rajya(as presumed by PBKs), because BKs do not remember shiv in any physical body..they remember shiv in Paramdham or in avaykt brahma-Lekhraj Kirpalani.

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 01 Aug 2012

To all truth-seeking PBKs.

Murli: 21-6-05 says : "बाप से पूरा वर्सा लेने में ही माया गफलत कराती ..तुमे उस फंदे में नहीं फसना है ..माया से ही लडाई होती है .. माया भी वारिसों पर जास्ती वार करेगी .. रुस्तोम से रुस्तोम हो लड़ेगी ."

"Bap se pura varsa lene mein hi Maya gaflat karati..tume uss fande mein nahin fasna hai..Maya se hi ladayee hoti hai..Maya bhi varisoo par jasti vaar karegi..rustom se rustom ho ladegi."

[" Maya confuses you in getting the full inheritance from the Father..you(108) should not fall into that trap..the fight is between Maya and you (108)... Maya attacks the Heir souls(108) more (than the praja souls)..Maya-rustom fights rustom(108) souls."]

Who is this Maya, who confuses the souls, traps the souls and will fight with 108 heir souls by becoming a rustom??....this Maya is none other than ishwariya Maya-Virendra Dev Dixit, who knows the praja souls and the Heir souls(108) and will fight like a rustom with 108 shivshaktis. (before bowing down to them)

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Re: Who is Godly-form of Maya-Ravan ???

Post by shivsena » 13 Aug 2012

To all truth-seeking brothers.

Avaykt Vani 12-11-92(page 68) says: "माया को भी ब्राहमण आत्मा प्यारी लगती हैं . वोह भी अपना बनाने का पुरुषार्थ नहीं छोडती ..इसलिए हर समय खबरदार -होशियार ."
"Maya ko bhi brahmin atma pyari lagti hain. Woh bhi apna banane ka purusharth nahin chodti..iss liye har samay khabardaar-hoshiyaar."

["Maya also likes brahmins very much. She also does purusharth (to trap brahmin souls)..that is why, be on guard all the time."]

The above Vani clearly points to a Godly Maya-Virendra Dev Dixit who is also doing the effort of trapping brahmin souls(BKs) and converting them to PBKs and that is why Mama(avaykt brahma) has issued a warning to be on guard all the time.

The above Vani point also completely negates the theory of PBKs who believe that souls playing the role of Maya-Ravan are hidden in the BKWSU.

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