fluffy bunny wrote:Could the story of the saddhu still fit into the picture? As in Lekhraj Kirpalani went to learn spiritualism or mediumship from a saddhu and *then* it all started.
The information i have quoted does not affect the testimony of Sevakram Khubachand at all imo. His accounts may or may not be totally accurate, i don't know for sure. These things such as Dada Lekhraj going to the saddhu could have occured in 1932, 4-5 years before Father Shiv entered Sevak Ram(Prajapaita-Ram) to explain the meaning of his visions. But Dada Lekhraj would not have known he was Krishna, or believed this to be so, until around 1936/7, as i understand it.
fluffy bunny wrote:Or is the inference that the money transaction refers to this shop manager? It does not make sense that Shewakram Khubachand would sign an affidavit saying it when, if as a business partner, he knew it was just a shop manager.
Which money transaction are you referring to... the payment of the saddhu for his secrets, or the accounting malpractise?
fluffy bunny wrote:What does permanent mean to the PBKs? In English, permanent means continuing without a break or until the end, so Virendra Dev Dixit cannot be the permanent Chariot simply because there was a break of x years whilst Lekhraj Kirpalani allegedly took over. Final, ultimate or perhaps conclusive might be a better word.
The word permanent is used, because the bodies(Sevak Ram & Virendra Dev Dixit) of the same soul Ram, are used in the beginning and the end of the Confluence Age, to play the role of the true Prajapita.The continuity is in terms of the same soul of Ram playing this part. It has been likened in advance knowledge to when a deputy headmaster takes over running a school, whilst the true headmaster is away. Dada Lekhraj was only the Chariot and title holder of Prajapita, in the middle section of the Confluence Age, and so is called the temporary Chariot. These are relative terms, in order to distinguish between the two roles.
fluffy bunny wrote:And rather than "not his role", perhaps "does not even know himself" might be a more accurate way to express it.
No, i believe the quote is accurate... The impact of the true facts coming from a source or sources who were there at the time, and are still alive, will be much more powerful. Anything coming from Virendra Dev Dixit on this matter, will not be seen as truth by the BKs anyway... But when a BK's or impartial testimony backs up the advance knowledge teachings; this will be a big bombshell. PBKs believe the teachings of Father Shiv through Virendra Dev Dixit in any case; but the facts are necessary, because they will remove any doubt that exists for all concerned. It's a totally fascinating time to be following these events, with the anticipation of the whole truth emerging, in the very near future.
fluffy bunny wrote:So, what's your and their opinion of the book then? Do you think it is an accurate representation of the Om Mandli? Do you think the Om Mandli might have been even hotter in the beginning?
I do not know is the simple answer. I do not reject it out of hand, because i know Adi Dev is a fairy tale, and always thought so, even in my early days as a BK. When DL found out he was Krishna, he did act in an egotistical manner, believing himself to be God. We have to remember, he was a tamopradhan soul in 1936, full of vices including lust. Krishna is supposed to have had many gopis, and he may have gone with the flow of these beliefs and the lustful sanskars that would definately be present within him. This would be a 'heady' time for Dada Lekhraj, so although i cannot say if the testimony it totally accurate, it may not be completely fiction either. Imo, there was a mixture of a few powerful truths being narrated by Father Shiv through Prajapita-Ram in relation to the Gita... but still a huge amount of Bhakti present in the minds of these souls. Thus a strange hybrid religion came into being in these very early days, before Father Shiv started to turn this around, with more detailed and accurate knowledge, as time went on. The event of God entering the corporeal world, was never going to be a totally smooth process.