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Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 27 Oct 2013

Om Shanti. The first Avyakt Vani of the current season i.e. 2013-14 delivered on 24.10.13 is enclosed herewith in Hindi.
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 27 Oct 2013

The specialty of the first Avyakt Vani of this season like the past year was that Avyakt BapDada vanished as soon as the narration of the Avyakt Vani was completed but unaware of BapDada's vanishing act the stage announcer invited the senior Dadis to meet BapDada just as it is done after every Avyakt Vani. But after the announcer realized that BapDada had already left she did not seem to be surprised and cooly announced that there will be a magic and BapDada will come back. We will ask BapDada to come back again. The white lights were switched off immediately and the red lights were switched on. The Hindi song (hum ud ke chale jaayein... / let us fly away...) was played to summon BapDada back to the gathering and BapDada obliged them by coming back and met the Dadis and senior brothers and sisters. Does it not indicate that the powers within the BKWSU are trying to control BapDada by summoning BapDada at their will. If the term 'BapDada'' includes Supreme Father Shiv according to them, then can God be controlled by imperfect human souls?

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by Shiv1976 » 28 Oct 2013

AUM Shanti Arjun Bhai.

Thank you for the information. Exactly. No one can invoke Shiv Supreme Soul.He comes on his own wish. But there will be no use in asking this to BKs because they will have their own reasons to avoid such questions.

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 28 Oct 2013

shiv1976 wrote:No one can invoke Shiv Supreme Soul.He comes on his own wish. But there will be no use in asking this to BKs because they will have their own reasons to avoid such questions.
Yes, nobody can invoke God. In fact, it has been mentioned in the Murlis that ShivBaba Himself comes running to Madhuban.

In many other Murlis it has been mentioned that one can never know when Shiv enters and departs. But here, in case of Gulzar Dadi children easily come to know of the entry and exit of a soul in her. So, definitely it is the soul of a human being (Brahma Baba) who is entering and leaving the body of Gulzar Dadi and is being controlled by the children.

And looking at the condition of Gulzar Dadi and Ayvakt BapDada where children are forcing BapDada to return (last year it was spontaneous return after a sudden departure during the narration of Avyakt Vani on 30.11.12) I was immediately reminded of the scene where a cow is forcibly milked even after emptying her udder to recover whatever little milk might be hidden in her udder. :sad:

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by Shiv1976 » 29 Oct 2013

Dear Arjun Bhai,
In many other Murlis it has been mentioned that one can never know when Shiv enters and departs
Yes.Exactly.
So, definitely it is the soul of a human being (Brahma Baba) who is entering and leaving the body of Gulzar Dadi and is being controlled by the children.
Just like how children control their Mother when Father leaves the body or when he is not with the family.
And looking at the condition of Gulzar Dadi and Ayvakt BapDada where children are forcing BapDada to return (last year it was spontaneous return after a sudden departure during the narration of Avyakt Vani on 30.11.12)
One question on the above statement. Has this incident taken place during any of the early A.Vs(right form 1969-2010 or 2011) or is this something new?

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 29 Oct 2013

shiv1976 wrote:One question on the above statement. Has this incident taken place during any of the early A.Vs(right form 1969-2010 or 2011) or is this something new?
Such incident never happened from 1969 till last year when BapDada vanished during the narration of Avyakt Vani and Gulzar Dadi started speaking for some time on 30.11.12. But last year BapDada returned on his own after a few minutes. But this time around, BapDada vanished suddenly and since BKs were mentally prepared for such exigencies, they immediately switched on red light and played a song to invoke BapDada back into Gulzar Dadi's body. Looks like their response to BapDada's vanishing act was pre-planned to save their face since the entire proceeding is telecast live.

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by Shiv1976 » 06 Nov 2013

AUM SHANTI Arjun Bhai,
Looks like their response to BapDada's vanishing act was pre-planned to save their face since the entire proceeding is telecast live.
Yes.This could just be a sample of the upcoming scenes of Drama. I saw a video of a brother from Mount Abu(BK Suraj) where he is giving lectures on Srimat Bhagwat Gita. Even this could be because of the 8 questions for which PBKs were demanding an answer from the BKs. Because all these days i have not seen any BKs giving explanation for the Bahagwat Gita and that too for all the 18 adhyayas.

At the end of the day, "Drama is Kalyankari".
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 17 Nov 2013

Om Shanti. The second Avyakt Vani of the current season i.e. 2013-14 delivered on 15.11.13 is enclosed herewith in Hindi. It is perhaps one of the shortest Avyakt Vanis narrated since 1969.
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 02 Dec 2013

Om Shanti. The third Avyakt Vani to be delivered on 30.11.13 was cancelled due to the ill-health of Dadi Gulzar. It is reported that she has undergone a surgery for stone in gall bladder. But she went into trance at a center in Mumbai and the trance message was transmitted live to Madhuban and other places. The trance message is enclosed herewith.
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 16 Dec 2013

Om Shanti. The fourth Avyakt Vani to be delivered on 15.12.13 was also marred by disturbance due to the ill-health of Dadi Gulzar. As per the Bulletin released along with the one-paragraph Avyakt Vani, dated 15.12.13 (which appears to be the shortest AV in the history of AVs since 1969) Dadi Gulzar was feeling weak despite being apparently healthy. So, when she first came to the stage at 7.30 PM she could not invoke BapDada due to weakness, after which she was taken to a room and to everybody's surprise she came back at 9 PM and delivered the one paragraph Avyakt Vani.
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 03 Jan 2014

Om Shanti. The fifth Avyakt Vani of the current season i.e. 2013-14 delivered on 31.12.13 is enclosed herewith in Hindi.
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by fluffy bunny » 04 Jan 2014

arjun wrote:... she could not invoke BapDada due to weakness
Why do you think invoking BapDada, if that is what she is doing, requires physical strength? Is that not something of a paradox?

Or is it mental focus that require physical strength? Obviously, when one is tired, hungry or in pain etc, one's mind becomes weaker, e.g. it cannot focus/concentrate. There is a correlation between the two, body and mind. It's also clear that individuals who are, say, malnourished when they are young, suffer from brain development issues which then affects their thinking processes. Soul alone does not overcome.

Is the process "invoking", as in suck down the other soul/s --- Gulzar is in control --- rather than being possessed, as in being taken over by the other souls --- the BapDada is in control?

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 04 Jan 2014

Or is it mental focus that require physical strength?
I think that is the reason.

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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 28 Jan 2014

Om Shanti. The sixth Avyakt Vani of the current season i.e. 2013-14 delivered on 18.01.14 is enclosed herewith in Hindi.
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Re: Avyakt Bap-Dada Season 2013-14

Post by arjun » 04 Feb 2014

Om Shanti. The seventh Avyakt Vani of the current season i.e. 2013-14 delivered on 31.01.14 is enclosed herewith in Hindi.
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