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Post by admin » 18 Aug 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 15.08.2015 wrote: विकारी मनुष्यों की शक्ल ही बदल जाती है। एकदम जैसे मुर्दे बन जाते हैं। जैसे शराबी शराब बिगर रह नहीं सकते। शराब से बहुत नशा चढ़ता है परन्तु अल्पकाल के लिए। इससे विकारी मनुष्यों की आयु भी कितनी छोटी हो जाती है। निर्विकारी देवताओं की आयु एवरेज 125-150 वर्ष होती है। एवरहेल्दी बनेंगे तो आयु भी तो बढ़ेगी ना। निरोगी काया हो जाती है। बाप को अविनाशी सर्जन भी कहा जाता है। ज्ञान इन्जेक्शन सतगुरू दिया अज्ञान अन्धेर विनाश।

The faces of vicious human beings completely change. They become COMPLETELY like CORPSES; just like an alcoholic who cannot stay without drinking alcohol. One becomes highly intoxicated with alcohol, but that only lasts for a short time. It is through this that the lifespan of vicious human beings has become so short. The lifespan of the viceless deities is on an average 125 to 150 years. When you become ever healthy, your lifespan would also increase, would it not? You then have a body that is free from disease. The Father is also called the eternal Surgeon. When the Satguru gives the injection of Knowledge, the darkness of ignorance is dispelled.
Who are the vicious, UNRIGHTEOUS children whose faces become like CORPSES, after becoming transitorily HIGHLY INTOXICATED with the ALCOHOL of the INVERTED knowledge promulgated by ‘Shankar’, masquerading as ‘ShivBaba’, through Ravan’s fixed/appointed/permanent Chariot, in the latter part of the Confluence Age, after 1969, due to which their lifespan DECREASES (in the corresponding period of the outer broad Drama)?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children whose faces radiate with TRUE Joy, after becoming permanently HIGHLY INTOXICATED with the NECTAR of the PURE Knowledge administered by REAL ShivBaba, through His fixed/appointed/permanent Chariot, in the earlier part of the Congluence Age, prior 1969, in ‘Sakar’, and in the latter part of the Confluence Age, after 1969, in ‘akar’, due to which their lifespan INCREASES (in the corresponding period of the outer broad Drama)?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children whose ‘darkness of ignorance’ is dispelled by the ‘injection’ of TRUE Knowledge, given by the ‘Satguru’, and who become ever-healthy by remembering the eternal Surgeon ACCURATELY, (without any ADULTERATION), and what is their destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children whose ‘darkness of ignorance’ is enhanced by the ‘injection’ of INVERTED knowledge, promulgated by the ‘Jhutguru’ (false bodily guru), masquerading as the ‘Satguru’, and who CANNOT remember the eternal Surgeon ACCURATELY, (without any ADULTERATION), and what is their destination?

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from http://bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2576&start=90#p49849 wrote:
• Father spoils his daughter too (by having physical SEXUAL relationship with her). Everyone gives their news to Baba, isn’t it? We did this bad work. There are many such instances. Some are spoiled by the preceptor, some by ‘Brother’, and some by maternal uncle. This world is called Vaishyalaya (a BROTHEL). (8-2-75, pg-2)

• Big & famous ascetics, monks, etc., who allow themselves to be worshipped by others are called HiranyaKashyap (a demon in Hindu mythology who ordered his subjects to treat him as God and worship him, but ended up being killed by an incarnation of God, from a pillar, in the form of a ‘half man-half lion’ called Narsimha). Such people are destroyed by God by assuming the form of Narsimha. (25-10-78)

• The bigger the titles (of a preceptor), the bigger the tail of such a ‘Monkey’. (18-4-71)

One day you Children will expose them. There are big preceptors, etc. In the end (of the Confluence Age) everyone will become tired (of these preceptors or bodily gurus). (22-10-78, pg-3)
Who is the chief Principal Preceptor (bodily guru, in the Confluence Age of Brahmins), who SPOILS his ‘daughter’ by having extensive physical SEXUAL relationship with her, after TRICKING her into believing that she is going to be, or is ‘Jagadamba’, thus compelling her to go into proper ‘vaishyalaya’ or BROTHEL to become a 'glorious' PROSTITUTE, and SUCCESSFULLY continues to TRICK his followers into believing that such an occurrence is INDEED required to bring the other ‘demons’ indulging in PROSTITUTION to the right path of Divinity?

Who is the chief Principal Preceptor (bodily guru), in the Confluence Age of Brahmins, who SUCCESSFULLY manages to get his gullible followers to ‘worship’ or adulate him, by delusively causing them to develop the staunch blind belief that he is the ‘Supreme Soul’ among all embodied souls, and that he is the personified form of ShivBaba or God, (thus confirming his HiranyaKashyaphood); and who is eventually destroyed by God by assuming the form of Narsimha - and through which glorious elevated embodied soul is such form assumed by God in the end?

Who is the chief Principal Preceptor (bodily guru), in the Confluence Age of Brahmins, who SUCCESSFULLY manages to get his gullible followers to develop the staunch belief that all the titles of the path of ‘worship’ actually pertain to him, in accordance with his 'pernicious' actions in the Confluence Age, and SUCCESSFULLY manages to develop such a big TAIL of his Monkeyhood, as to COMPLETELY TRAP his blind gullible followers into his vicious grip, by effectively utilising the concepts of Ravan Rajya, to stealthily match the PURE Versions of God by clandestinely TWISTING them, to his FULL & COMPLETE or optimum advantage?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children of God who remain in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED remembrance (yatharth, avyabhichari Yaad) of the REAL Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba or God, and therefore are able to CLEARLY perceive the demoniac manipulations of such bodily gurus or preceptors, and who will eventually EXPOSE the chief Principal Preceptor (bodily guru, in the Confluence Age of Brahmins, who implies that he is Prajapita Brahma), and all other such big PRECEPTORS, when everyone will ultimately become REALLY tired of them, finding that they are NOT EXPERIENCING any REAL spiritual advancement in their individual PERSONAL endeavours at all?

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Post by admin » 25 Aug 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 24.08.2015 wrote: तुम बच्चे जानते हो परमपिता परमात्मा बिन्दी है, वह हमको पढ़ाते हैं। हम आत्मायें पढ़ रही हैं। यह भूलना नहीं चाहिए। हम आत्मा को जो नॉलेज मिलती है, फिर हम दूसरी आत्माओं को देते हैं। यह याद तब ठहरेगी जब अपने को आत्मा समझ बाप की याद में रहेंगे। याद में बहुत कच्चे हैं, झट देह-अभिमान आ जाता है। देही-अभिमानी बनने की प्रैक्टिस करनी है।

You Children know that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, is a POINT, and that He is TEACHING Us (souls). We souls are studying. Don’t forget this. We souls then give the Knowledge that we receive to other souls. ONLY WHEN you (first) consider yourself to be a soul and (then) stay in remembrance of the Father can this remembrance remain stable. Many are weak in remembrance. They are very quickly drawn into body consciousness. You have to practise being soul conscious.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS (‘saput’, ‘sagay’, ‘mateley’, right-hand) Children who KNOW, UNDERSTAND & EXPERIENCE Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God, to be a POINT of MAGNIFICENTLY RADIANT & EFFULGENT, STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL, ENCHANTINGLY LOVELY, POWERFULLY SUSTAINING, REFRESHING, NOURISHING & REJUVENATING SPIRITUAL LIGHT ENERGY; and who know and understand that God Himself TEACHES human souls in the Confluence Age through His appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot - FIRST in a ‘Sakar’ or corporeal vehicle until 1969, and THEN in an ‘akar’ or subtle vehicle after 1969 - to afford the souls to become COMPLETELY soul-conscious at the very end of the Confluence Age, through His ACCURATE UNADULTERATED remembrance, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS (‘kaput’, ‘lagay’, ‘soteley’, left-hand) children who DO NOT CLEARLY know, understand or experience Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God, to be a POINT of MAGNIFICENTLY RADIANT & EFFULGENT, STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL, ENCHANTINGLY LOVELY, POWERFULLY SUSTAINING, REFRESHING, NOURISHING & REJUVENATING SPIRITUAL LIGHT ENERGY; and who DO NOT CLEARLY know and understand that God Himself TEACHES human souls in the Confluence Age through His appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot - FIRST in a ‘Sakar’ or corporeal vehicle until 1969, and THEN in an ‘akar’ or subtle vehicle after 1969 - (to afford the souls to become COMPLETELY soul-conscious at the very end of the Confluence Age through His ACCURATE UNADULTERATED remembrance), and what is their final destination?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS (‘saput’, ‘sagay’, ‘mateley’, right-hand) Children who do not forget that they are souls and that they are studying to be soul-conscious, who practise being soul-conscious, and who also give this Knowledge to other souls, (who are still weak in remembrance and who get quickly drawn into body-consciousness readily); and who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that their remembrance can remain STABLE ONLY WHEN they first consider themselves to be souls and then remain in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED remembrance of God, the Father, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS (‘kaput’, ‘lagay’, ‘soteley’, left-hand) children who keep forgetting that they are souls and that they are actually studying only to be soul-conscious, and who DO NOT practise being soul-conscious accurately, and who inadvertently become instrumental to give the INVERTED knowledge promulgated by ‘Shankar’, after 1969, to other souls, (thus becoming weaker in accurate remembrance and getting quickly drawn into body-consciousness readily); and who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that their remembrance can remain STABLE ONLY WHEN they first consider themselves to be souls and then remain in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED remembrance of God, the Father, and what is their final destination?

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from http://bk-pbk.info/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2576&start=90#p49952 wrote:
• One should not give or take anything from anyone. Ask them, why do you give this? Your connection is with ShivBaba, isn’t it…..The good deeds of those who don’t give DIRECTLY are not deposited with ShivBaba. Establishment (of new world) takes place THROUGH Brahma. So one should DO EVERYTHING THROUGH him (Brahma). If someone MISAPPROPRIATES MIDWAY then it will NOT be deposited with ShivBaba. If you have to give anything to ShivBaba, you MUST GIVE THROUGH Brahma. Even if you have to open a Centre it should be done THROUGH Brahma. If anyone opens a Centre ON HIS OWN, how can it be called a Centre? (3-11-76, pg-3)
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that they should not give or take anything (particularly a ‘gift’) from anyone, and that their CONNECTION should be with ONLY ONE ShivBaba and NONE OTHER; and who CLEARLY understand that establishment takes place ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, and so they should do EVERYTHING ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba (in ‘Sakar’ until 1969; and in ‘akar’ after 1969, through the officially appointed ‘Sakar’ instrumental souls - as per ShivBaba’s ‘Shrimat’ and CLEAR DIRECTIVES of God Himself)?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that they should not give or take anything (particularly a ‘gift’) from anyone else, and that their CONNECTION should be with ONLY ONE ShivBaba and NONE OTHER; and who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that establishment takes place ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba and NOT through any other human soul, and so they should do EVERYTHING ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba (in ‘Sakar’ until 1969; and in ‘akar’ after 1969, through the officially appointed ‘Sakar’ instrumental souls - as per ShivBaba’s ‘Shrimat’ and CLEAR DIRECTIVES of God Himself)?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that if they have to give anything to ShivBaba or if they have to open a Centre, same should be done ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba (in ‘Sakar’ until 1969; and in ‘akar’ after 1969, through the officially appointed ‘Sakar’ instrumental souls - as per ShivBaba’s ‘Shrimat’ and CLEAR DIRECTIVES of God Himself) - and if someone MISAPPROPRIATES MIDWAY, and DOES NOT give DIRECTLY to ShivBaba through Brahma Baba, then it will NOT be deposited with ShivBaba (but will be deposited, instead, only with Ravan or Maya)?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that if they have to give anything to ShivBaba or if they have to open a Centre, same should be done ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba (in ‘Sakar’ until 1969; and in ‘akar’ after 1969, through the officially appointed ‘Sakar’ instrumental souls - as per ShivBaba’s ‘Shrimat’ and CLEAR DIRECTIVES of God Himself), and NOT through any other human soul - and if someone MISAPPROPRIATES MIDWAY, and DOES NOT give DIRECTLY to ShivBaba through Brahma Baba, then it will NOT be deposited with ShivBaba (but will be deposited, instead, only with Ravan or Maya)?

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that if ANYONE opens a Centre on HIS OWN or even establishes a ‘university’ on HIS OWN, and then designates that university as ‘Spiritual Godly World University’ then that Centre CANNOT be called as a Centre authorized by God, and such ‘university’ CANNOT be considered to be an ‘university’ authorized by God, (but only a Centre and an ‘university’ which has been surreptitiously & clandestinely established by Ravan or Maya, ONLY to TRICK innocent & unwary souls, and TREACHEROUSLY use them to MOCK, INSULT & OPPOSE God, by EXTENSIVELY using the VERY SAME SMs and AVs originally spoken by God, after CRAFTILY TWISTING & DISTORTING their interpretations to be in accurate consonance with the distorted concepts of Ravan Rajya)?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that if ANYONE opens a Centre on HIS OWN or even establishes a ‘university’ on HIS OWN, and then designates that university as ‘Spiritual Godly World University’ then that Centre CANNOT be called as a Centre authorized by God, and such ‘university’ CANNOT be considered to be an ‘university’ authorized by God, (but only a Centre and an ‘university’ which has been surreptitiously & clandestinely established by Ravan or Maya, ONLY to TRICK innocent & unwary souls, and TREACHEROUSLY use them to MOCK, INSULT & OPPOSE God, by EXTENSIVELY using the VERY SAME SMs and AVs originally spoken by God, after CRAFTILY TWISTING & DISTORTING their interpretations to be in accurate consonance with the distorted concepts of Ravan Rajya)?

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Post by admin » 29 Aug 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 28.08.2015 wrote: कृष्ण प्रिन्स होगा तो कहेंगे ना - हमारा बाबा राजा है। ऐसे नहीं कि कृष्ण का बाप राजा नहीं हो सकता। कृष्ण प्रिन्स कहलाया जाता है तो जरूर राजा के पास जन्म हुआ है। साहूकार पास जन्म ले तो प्रिन्स थोड़ेही कहलायेंगे। राजा के पद और साहूकार के पद में रात-दिन का फर्क हो जाता है। कृष्ण के बाप राजा का नाम ही नहीं है। कृष्ण का कितना नाम बाला है। बाप का ऊंच पद नहीं कहेंगे। वह सेकण्ड क्लास का पद है, जो सिर्फ निमित्त बनते हैं कृष्ण को जन्म देने। ऐसे नहीं कि कृष्ण की आत्मा से वह ऊंच पढ़ा हुआ है। नहीं। कृष्ण ही सो फिर नारायण बनते हैं। बाकी बाप का नाम ही गुम हो जाता है। है जरूर ब्राह्मण। परन्तु पढ़ाई में कृष्ण से कम है। कृष्ण की आत्मा की पढ़ाई अपने बाप से ऊंच थी, तब तो इतना नाम होता है। कृष्ण का बाप कौन था - यह जैसे किसको पता नहीं। आगे चल मालूम पड़ेगा। बनना तो यहाँ से ही है। राधे के भी माँ-बाप तो होंगे ना। परन्तु उनसे राधे का नाम जास्ती है क्योंकि माँ-बाप कम पढ़े हुए हैं। राधे का नाम उनसे ऊंच हो जाता है। यह हैं डीटेल की बातें - बच्चों को समझाने के लिए। सारा मदार पढ़ाई पर है। ब्रह्मा पर भी समझाने का अक्ल चाहिए। वही कृष्ण जो है उनकी आत्मा ही 84 जन्म भोगती है। तुम भी 84 जन्म लेते हो। सब इकट्ठे तो नहीं आयेंगे। जो पढ़ाई में पहले-पहले होते हैं, वहाँ भी वह पहले आयेंगे। नम्बरवार तो आते हैं ना। यह बड़ी महीन बातें हैं। कम बुद्धि वाले तो धारणा कर न सकें

When Krishna is a prince, he would say that his father is the king. It isn’t that Krishna’s father cannot be a king. Krishna is called a prince; therefore, he MUST DEFINITELY HAVE TAKEN BIRTH to a KING. He wouldn’t be called a prince if he had taken birth in a wealthy family. There is the difference of day and night between the status of a king and that of a wealthy person. There is no mention of the king who was Krishna’s father. Krishna’s name is glorified so much. His father’s status is NOT SAID TO BE AS HIGH.
His (father’s) status is SECOND CLASS, because he SIMPLY BECOMES THE INSTRUMENT to give birth to Krishna. It is NOT THAT HE STUDIED MORE than Krishna’s soul. NO ! It is Krishna who then becomes Narayan; while his father’s name disappears. He (Krishna’s father) was definitely a Brahmin, but he STUDIED LESS than Krishna. Krishna’s soul STUDIED MORE than the soul of his father. This is why his name is glorified. Who was the father of Krishna? It is as though no one knows this. As you go further you will come to know this. He has to become that here. There are ALSO the parents of Radhe, but Radhe’s name is GLORIFIED MORE than those of her parents. Because HER PARENTS STUDIED LESS, Radhe’s name BECOMES HIGHER than theirs. These are detailed matters which you children have to explain. Everything depends on how you study. You need wisdom to explain about Brahma. The SAME SOUL of Krishna HIMSELF then takes 84 births. You also take 84 births. Not everyone comes there (in the very beginning of the Golden Age) at the same time. Those who are ahead in this study will come there first. Everyone comes there, numberwise. These are VERY SUBTLE matters.
THOSE WHO HAVE LESS WISDOM WILL NOT BE ABLE TO IMBIBE SAME !
Who are the RIGHTEOUS (‘saput’, ‘sagay’, ‘matelay’ or right-hand) Children who UNDOUBTEDLY &
CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, that . . . ? ? ? ? ? ?

1. The SAME SOUL of the FIRST PRINCE of Golden Age, Shri Krishna, takes ‘COMPLETE’ 84 births, and then becomes the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of ShivBaba in his final 84th birth, when he is in a ‘RETIRED STAGE’, and becomes REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA or Brahma Baba, to be instrumental to give spiritual re-birth to ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Brahmins, in the earlier part of the Confluence Age

2. Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba then TEACHES ONLY these RIGHTEOUS Brahmins through REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA or Brahma Baba in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date, to enable them to transform their consciousness from ‘Sakar’ to ‘akar’; and then finally to ‘nirakar’, to enable them to receive spiritual sustenance from ShivBaba, DIRECTLY, as souls, in a COMPLETE soul-conscious stage, at the very end of the Confluence Age

3. REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA or Brahma Baba is the REAL ‘Adi Dev’ and REAL ‘JagatNath’ of RamRajya, and the PURE Versions spoken by REAL ShivBaba are the REAL Murli, through the study of which the RIGHTEOUS Children receive the sovereignty of REAL Paradise in RamRajya

4. Shri Krishna’s corporeal father is a king, whose status is NOT SAID to be as HIGH as Shri Krishna, since his status is SECOND CLASS, because he SIMPLY BECOMES the INSTRUMENT to give corporeal birth to Shri Krishna. It is NOT THAT HE STUDIED MORE than Krishna’s soul (as Brahma Baba), and therefore Shri Krishna’s name is GLORIFIED MORE than his corporeal father

5. Shri Radhe’s corporeal parents are DIFFERENT from the parents of Shri Krishna, and Shri Radhe’s name is GLORIFIED MORE than her parents, because HER PARENTS STUDIED LESS - therefore Shri Radhe’s name BECOMES HIGHER than theirs. Shri Krishna takes birth BEFORE Shri Radhe

6. ALL above matters are VERY SUBTLE, and THOSE WHO HAVE LESS WISDOM WILL NOT BE ABLE TO IMBIBE SAME, PARTICULARLY IF THEIR INTELLECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY INVERTED by Ravan or Maya in the Confluence Age . . . ? ? ? ? ? ?


Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS (‘kaput’, ‘lagay’, ‘sotelay’ or left-hand) children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, that . . . ? ? ? ? ? ?

1. The SAME SOUL of the FIRST PRINCE of Golden Age, Shri Krishna, takes ‘COMPLETE’ 84 births, and then becomes the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of ShivBaba in his final 84th birth, when he is in a ‘RETIRED STAGE’, and becomes REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA or Brahma Baba, to be instrumental to give spiritual re-birth to ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Brahmins, in the earlier part of the Confluence Age ...

While the LAST PRINCE of Silver Age, Shri Rama, who also takes ‘COMPLETE’ 84 births, then becomes the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of Ravan or Maya, (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’), in his final 84th birth, and is only CONSIDERED to be (APPARENT) ‘Prajapita Brahma’, to be instrumental to give spiritual re-birth to ONLY the UNRIGHTEOUS Brahmins, in the latter part of the Confluence Age

2. Supreme Father Supreme Soul or REAL ShivBaba, TEACHES ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Brahmins through REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA or Brahma Baba in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date, to enable them to transform their consciousness from ‘Sakar’ to ‘akar’; and then finally to ‘nirakar’, to enable them to receive spiritual sustenance from ShivBaba, DIRECTLY, as souls, in a COMPLETE soul-conscious stage, at the very end of the Confluence Age ...

While the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’ & 'Prajapita Brahma', INDOCTRINATES these UNRIGHTEOUS Brahmins, in ‘Sakar’ after 1969, with the CORRUPTED & INVERTED knowledge (obtained by DISTORTION & MISINTERPRETATION of the VERY SAME SMs and AVs, originally spoken by REAL ShivBaba, to be in ACCURATE consonance with the distorted concepts of Ravan Rajya), to keep them TRAPPED in body-consciousness, till the very end of the Confluence Age, so that they may NOT receive spiritual sustenance from ShivBaba, DIRECTLY, (as souls, in a complete soul-conscious stage)

3. REAL PRAJAPITA BRAHMA or Brahma Baba is the REAL ‘Adi Dev’ and REAL ‘JagatNath’ of RamRajya, and the PURE Versions spoken by REAL ShivBaba are the REAL Murli, through the study of which the RIGHTEOUS Children receive the sovereignty of REAL Paradise in RamRajya ...

While APPARENT ‘Prajapita Brahma’ is the APPARENT ‘Adi Dev’ and APPARENT ‘JagatNath’ of Ravan Rajya, and the IMPURE Versions spoken by APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’ are the APPARENT Murli, through the study of which the UNRIGHTEOUS children receive the sovereignty of APPARENT Paradise in Ravan Rajya

4. Shri Krishna’s corporeal father is a king, whose status is NOT SAID to be as HIGH as Shri Krishna, since his status is SECOND CLASS, because he SIMPLY BECOMES the INSTRUMENT to give corporeal birth to Shri Krishna. It is NOT THAT HE STUDIED MORE than Krishna’s soul (as Brahma Baba), and therefore Shri Krishna’s name is GLORIFIED MORE than his corporeal father ...

While the UNRIGHTEOUS children CONSIDER (APPARENT) ‘Prajapita Brahma’ to be the corporeal father of Shri Krishna, and his status and glory are CONSIDERED to be HIGHER than the soul of Shri Krishna or Brahma Baba, since he is CONSIDERED to have studied MORE, better or higher than the soul of Shri Krishna (which actually applies to the INVERTED knowledge propagated by Ravan or Maya, through the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as (APPARENT) 'ShivBaba', who is actually the COUNTERPART of the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of REAL ShivBaba, in the Confluence Age)

5. Shri Radhe’s corporeal parents are DIFFERENT from the parents of Shri Krishna, and Shri Radhe’s name is GLORIFIED MORE than her parents, because HER PARENTS STUDIED LESS, therefore Shri Radhe’s name BECOMES HIGHER than theirs. Shri Krishna takes birth BEFORE Shri Radhe ...

While the APPOINTED, FIXED or PERMANENT Chariot of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as (APPARENT) ‘ShivBaba’ & 'Prajapita Brahma', propagates that souls of Shri Krishna and Shri Radhe take birth through the SAME parents, as TWINS, in the confluence between I A and G A, (while this actually applies to the confluence between S A and C A)

6. ALL above matters are VERY SUBTLE, and THOSE WHO HAVE LESS WISDOM WILL NOT BE ABLE TO IMBIBE SAME, PARTICULARLY IF THEIR INTELLECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY INVERTED by Ravan or Maya in the Confluence Age ...

Owing to their INVERTED INTELLECTS the UNRIGHTEOUS children have LESS wisdom, and therefore are UNABLE to IMBIBE these matters, which are VERY SUBTLE, requiring a VERY SUBTLE INTELLECT - while Ravan or Maya manages to TRAP these souls in a GROSS INTELLECT through the CORRUPTED & INVERTED knowledge, initiated and propagated by Ravan by utilising the very SAME SMs and AVs originally spoken by REAL ShivBaba, and making them DELUSIVELY believe that same are the ‘CLARIFICATIONS’ of such PURE Knowledge, which constitute the ‘so-called’ Advanced Knowledge . . . ? ? ? ? ? ?

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From here - viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2576&start=90#p49992
• Children will ask, “Why did you not reveal earlier that the Supreme Soul is like a point ?” Father says, “At that time the role of revelation was not there.” One cannot say that why was this not revealed earlier. Arey! Why do you not study for ICS (Indian Civil Service, formerly known as Imperial Civil Service) earlier? There are rules for studies also, isn’t it? (12.6.71, pg.2)

• Day by day you Children will get deeper directions also. Did Baba speak about the soul being a point earlier? Now he explains that remember as a point. In future many more new points will be revealed. Day by day there will be improvement. (28.2.69, pg.2)
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED (‘yatharth avyabhichari’), and the SUBTLEST REAL ESSENCEFUL form of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God, is just a very tiny bright DOT or POINT, EXACTLY like their own selves; and therefore, who CLEARLY understand that ACCURATE REMEMBRANCE means to FIRST consider themselves as a very tiny bright POINT of spiritual light energy, and THEN remember God, also in the form of a very tiny bright POINT of spiritual light energy, to enable them to become COMPLETELY PURE by becoming BOTH, COMPLETELY soul-conscious as well as God-conscious, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED (‘yatharth avyabhichari’), and the SUBTLEST REAL ESSENCEFUL form of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God, is just a very tiny bright DOT or POINT, (EXACTLY like their own selves); and therefore, who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that ACCURATE REMEMBRANCE means to FIRST consider themselves as a very tiny bright POINT of spiritual light energy, and THEN remember God, also in the form of a very tiny bright POINT of spiritual light energy, (to enable them to become COMPLETELY PURE by becoming BOTH, COMPLETELY soul-conscious as well as God-conscious) - since they allow themselves to be DELUSIVELY TRAPPED in CORRUPTING & ADULTERATING the 'PICTURE' of the ACCURATE form of God, with an embodied soul, either in a CORPOREAL or SUBTLE form, owing to their POWERFUL ‘Bhakti’ or devotional ‘sanskars’ or proclivities, and what is their final destination?
Those who pay full attention towards the Knowledge will keep making corrections , etc., in the 'pictures'. (27.11.76, pg.3)
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who will pay FULL ATTENTION towards the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and will KEEP MAKING CORRECTIONS themselves, (in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), with respect to the SUBTLEST ‘PICTURE’ of the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED form of God, for the benefit of the WHOLE of CREATION, (and also for their very own ultimate benefit); and who CLEARLY understand that "in future many more NEW points will be revealed", (to themselves, spontaneously EMERGING in their DIVINE INTELLECT, while stabilizing themselves in their soul-conscious stage, and remaining in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), "and day by day there will be improvement" (in their spiritual stage, due to stabilizing themselves in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT pay FULL ATTENTION towards the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and therefore CANNOT KEEP MAKING ACCURATE CORRECTIONS themselves, (in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), with respect to the SUBTLEST ‘PICTURE’ of the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED form of God, (for the benefit of the WHOLE of CREATION, and also for their very own ultimate benefit); and who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that "in future many more NEW points would be revealed", (to themselves, spontaneously EMERGING in their DIVINE INTELLECT, IF they stabilize themselves in their soul-conscious stage, and remain in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), "and day by day there will be improvement" (in their spiritual stage, IF they stabilize themselves in ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God) – since they allow themselves to be DELUSIVELY TRAPPED in CORRUPTING & ADULTERATING the ACCURATE form of God, with an embodied soul, either in a CORPOREAL or SUBTLE form, owing to their POWERFUL ‘Bhakti’ or devotional ‘sanskars’ or proclivities, thus inadvertently performing a REVERSE FLIP or inputting the PURE Knowledge in REVERSE GEAR, under the active CORRUPT influence of bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors, or the POWERFUL INFLUENCE of ‘Bhakti’ or devotional DISTORTED CONCEPTS, MEMORIALS, IMAGES & PICTURES of Ravan Rajya, (while STILL being in the process of carrying out the 'shooting' of their latent 'sanskars' of Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Confluence Age), and what is their final destination?
• Now the list of expansion (of ELEVATED Children) is incomplete. Nine lakhs are not yet ready (PRIOR 1985). Meeting will take place through some way or the other, isn’t it? The method keeps changing. (For) those who met in the corporeal form and are now meeting in the subtle (Avyakt) form, the mode has changed, isn’t it? The mode will keep changing in future also. The mode of meeting will also keep changing as per the expansion (of children understanding the Knowledge). (AV. 14.12.85, pg.94)
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that the METHOD of MEETING God will KEEP CHANGING from ‘Sakar’ to ‘akar’, and FINALLY to ‘nirakar’, in this SPECIFIC ORDER (and NOT vice versa); and those who met God BEFORE in the CORPOREAL form (through His appointed fixed permanent Chariot, Brahma Baba, in corporeal form, prior 1969), are NOW meeting God in the SUBTLE or ‘Avyakt’ form (through His SAME appointed fixed permanent Chariot, Brahma Baba, in subtle form, after 1969, through the instrumental corporeal vehicle of Dadi Gulzar); and in the FUTURE, this mode will ALSO CHANGE, when Children would have to meet God ONLY in ‘nirakar’, by progressively developing their own spiritual stage to become COMPLETELY PURE and COMPLETELY soul-conscious, with the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘yatharth avyabhichari Yaad’) of REAL ShivBaba or God, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that the METHOD of MEETING God will KEEP CHANGING from ‘Sakar’ to ‘akar’, and FINALLY to ‘nirakar’, in this SPECIFIC ORDER (and NOT vice versa); and those who met God BEFORE in the CORPOREAL form (through His appointed fixed permanent Chariot, Brahma Baba, in corporeal form, prior 1969), are NOW meeting God in the SUBTLE or ‘Avyakt’ form (through His SAME appointed fixed permanent Chariot, Brahma Baba, in subtle form, after 1969, through the instrumental corporeal vehicle of Dadi Gulzar); and in the FUTURE, this mode will ALSO CHANGE, when Children would have to meet God ONLY in ‘nirakar’, (by progressively developing their own spiritual stage to become COMPLETELY PURE and COMPLETELY soul-conscious, with the ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE (‘yatharth avyabhichari Yaad’) of REAL ShivBaba or God) - since they allow themselves to be DELUSIVELY TRAPPED in CORRUPTING & ADULTERATING the ACCURATE form of God, with an embodied soul, either in a CORPOREAL or SUBTLE form, owing to their POWERFUL ‘Bhakti’ or devotional ‘sanskars’ or proclivities, thus inadvertently performing a REVERSE FLIP or inputting the PURE Knowledge in REVERSE GEAR, under the active CORRUPT influence of bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors, or the POWERFUL INFLUENCE of ‘Bhakti’ or devotional DISTORTED CONCEPTS, MEMORIALS, IMAGES & PICTURES of Ravan Rajya, (while STILL being in the process of carrying out the 'shooting' of their latent 'sanskars' of Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Confluence Age), and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 11.09.2015 wrote: आत्मा को ज्ञान मिलता है - परमपिता परमात्मा से। . . .

अब बाप कहते हैं अपने को आत्मा निश्चय कर बैठो। बेहद का बाप हम आत्माओं को समझाते हैं। . . .

परमपिता परमात्मा कैसे सुख देते हैं, किसकी बुद्धि में नहीं आता। कितना भी अच्छी रीति समझाओ फिर भी बुद्धि में नहीं बैठता। अपने को जब आत्मा समझें तब परमात्मा का ज्ञान भी समझ सकें। . . .

पहले-पहले तो समझाओ - तुम आत्मा हो, देह नहीं। नहीं तो लॉटरी सारी गुम हो जायेगी। . . .

जो भी आये उनको यह बताओ कि पहले अपने को आत्मा समझो। यह नॉलेज बाप ही देते हैं। जो सभी आत्माओं का पिता है। आत्म-अभिमानी बनना है। आत्मा ज्ञान उठाती है, परमात्मा बाप को याद करने से ही विकर्म विनाश होंगे . . .


Souls receive Knowledge from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. . . .

Now the Father says: Sit with the faith that you are souls, that the unlimited Father is explaining to us souls. . . .

It doesn’t enter anyone’s intellect how the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, gives happiness. No matter how well you explain, it still doesn’t sit in anyone’s intellect. Only when they consider themselves to be souls can they understand this Knowledge of the the Supreme Soul. . . .

First of all, explain: You are a soul, not a body. Otherwise, all the lottery will be lost. . . .

Tell whomever comes: First of all, consider yourself to be a soul. Only the Father, who is the Father of all souls, gives you this Knowledge. You have to become soul conscious. The soul receives knowledge. It is only by remembering the Father, the Supreme Soul, that your sins are absolved . . .
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children, who CLEARLY understand that they are receiving this spiritual Knowledge from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the Father of ALL souls;
and who have the faith that the UNLIMITED Father is EXPLAINING this Knowledge to souls;
and who are very much AWARE that they can TRULY understand this Knowledge ACCURATELY, ONLY when they consider themselves as souls;
and who are very much AWARE that if they consider themselves to be a body, or ADULDTERATE the remembrance of the Supreme Soul with an embodied being, either in a gross or subtle form, then ALL their spiritual LOTTERY would be LOST;
and who CLEARLY understand they have to FIRST consider themselves to be a soul – a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT – and THEN remember the Supreme Father Supreme Soul – also a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT - UNADULTERATED with any embodied being, either in a gross or subtle form, to be able to become COMPLETELY soul-conscious, to enable their sins to be absolved and become COMPLETELY PURE, with such 'yatharth avyabhichari yad' or ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS Children, who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that they are receiving this spiritual Knowledge from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the Father of ALL souls; (since they CORRUPT or ADULTERATE the Supreme Father Supreme Soul with an embodied being, either in a gross or subtle form);
and who DO NOT have the TRUE faith that the UNLIMITED or INCORPOREAL Father is EXPLAINING this Knowledge to souls; (through His ‘mukrar rath’ Brahma Baba – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date);
and who are NOT properly AWARE that they can TRULY understand this Knowledge ACCURATELY, ONLY when they consider themselves as souls;
and who are NOT properly AWARE that if they consider themselves to be a body, or ADULTERATE the remembrance of the Supreme Soul with an embodied being, either in a gross or subtle form, then ALL their spiritual LOTTERY would be LOST;
and who DO NOT CLEARLY understand they have to FIRST consider themselves to be a soul – a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT – and THEN remember the Supreme Father Supreme Soul – also a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT - UNADULTERATED with any embodied being, either in a gross or subtle form, (to be able to become COMPLETELY soul-conscious, to enable their sins to be absolved and become COMPLETELY PURE, with such 'yatharth avyabhichari yad' or ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God), and what is their final destination?

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BKWSU SM, Revised 09.09.2015 wrote: अपने को आत्मा समझ मामेकम् याद करो। वही पतित-पावन है। दुनिया में कोई पतित-पावन है नहीं। शिव भगवानुवाच, जबकि कहते हैं सर्व का सद्गति दाता पतित-पावन एक। उनको ही सब याद करते हैं। परन्तु जब अपने को आत्मा बिन्दी समझें तब बाप की याद आये।

Consider yourselves to be souls and constantly remember Me ALONE. He ALONE is the Purifier. No one else in the world can be the Purifier. These are the versions of God Shiva. It is said that the Bestower of Salvation for All and the Purifier is only ONE. Everyone remembers Him ALONE. However, ONLY when you FIRST consider yourself to be a soul, a POINT, are you ABLE to remember the Father.
BKWSU AV 25.01.1980, Revised 13.09.2015 wrote: आज बाप-दादा मिलने के लिए आये हैं। मुरली तो बहुत सुनी है। सर्व मुरलियों का सार एक ही शब्द है – ‘बिन्दु’। जिसमें सारा विस्तार समाया हुआ है। बिन्दु तो बन गये हो ना? बिन्दु बनना, बिन्दु को याद करना और जो कुछ बीता उसको बिन्दु लगाना। यह सहज अनुभव होता है ना। यह अति सूक्ष्म और अति शक्तिशाली है, जिससे आप सब भी सूक्ष्म फरिश्ता बन, मास्टर सर्व शक्तिवान बन पार्ट बजाते हो।

Today, Bap-Dada have come (only) to Meet (you). You have heard many Murlis. The ESSENCE of ALL the Murlis is in just the ONE word ‘POINT’ (bindu). ALL EXPANSION or ALL the details are MERGED in this ‘POINT’. Each of you has BECOME a ‘POINT’, have you not? BECOME a ‘point’, remember the ‘Point’ and apply a ‘point’ (full-stop) to anything that has passed - you EASILY EXPERIENCE this, do you not? This is EXTREMELY SUBTLE and POWERFUL (ESSENCE), through which you become a ‘SUBTLE ANGEL’ and play your part as ‘MASTER ALMIGHTY AUTHORITY’.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who - BESIDES merely understanding, and easily grasping, the very BASIC concept that they have to FIRST consider themselves as a soul, (a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any form of body-consciousness, either gross or subtle), to be ABLE to remember the Father, ShivBaba or God, (also a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any bodily being in any form, either gross or subtle) –
- ALSO CLEARLY EXPERIENCE themselves as a soul, (a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any form of body-consciousness, either gross or subtle), as a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of which they CLEARLY EXPERIENCE the Father, ShivBaba or God, (also a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any bodily being in any form, either gross or subtle), and hence ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE the SUBTLE SPIRITUAL CURRENT flowing from the Supreme Soul to the individual soul, (with such 'yatharth avyabhichari yad' or ACCURATE UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God, as a result of which they get progressively PURIFIED, since their SINS get progressively INCINERATED), and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who - are HARDLY able to CLEARLY grasp, and ONLY SUPERFICIALLY understand, the very BASIC concept that they have to FIRST consider themselves as a soul, (a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any form of body-consciousness, either gross or subtle), to be ABLE to remember the Father, ShivBaba or God, (also a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any bodily being in any form, either gross or subtle) –
and hence who are NOT ABLE to clearly EXPERIENCE themselves as a soul, (a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any form of body-consciousness, either gross or subtle), as a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of which they are NOT ABLE to clearly EXPERIENCE the Father, ShivBaba or God, (also a TINY POINT or BRIGHT DOT, UNADULTERATED with any bodily being in any form, either gross or subtle), and hence are NOT ABLE to EXPERIENCE the SUBTLE SPIRITUAL CURRENT flowing from the Supreme Soul to the individual soul, AS YET, (because of their 'ayatharth vyabhichari yad' or INACCURATE ADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE of God, through which they CANNOT get progressively PURIFIED, and their SINS CANNOT get progressively INCINERATED), and what is their final destination?

From here - viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2624&start=15#p50084
"Baba (ShivBaba) is sitting in his (Brahma Baba’s) body. So surely one (RIGHTEOUS Child) will be reminded of (Brahma Baba’s corporeal) body also (EVEN AFTER he leaves his corporeal body). (Children think that) Such Soul (ShivBaba) present in such a body (of Brahma Baba – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date) possesses such virtues." (7.4.84, pg.1)

"You (RIGHTEOUS Children) know that (ShivBaba) is in the body of Brahma (Baba). So surely you will have to remember here (when you are STILL body-conscious). He’s not above (in the Soul World – at that PARTICULAR TIME when He is in the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, BUT He does not remain in the corporeal Body the whole day – He speaks the Versions and then LEAVES). He has come here at this Confluence Age. Father says I have come here to make you so great. You Children will remember here (UNTIL you are able to TRANSCEND body-conscious, and DEVELOP soul-consciousness). Father (ShivBaba) says I am in (Brahma Baba’s) body. Remember Me in THIS body (of Brahma Baba – in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, as long as you have the GROSS body-consciousness of your corporeal body; and in ‘akar’ after 1969, as long as you have the SUBTLE body-consciousness of your subtle body) ." (24-12-70 pg-3)

"Children (who are STILL body-conscious) ask, “How should we remember (ShivBaba)? Many children get a doubt whether they should remember ShivBaba in Brahma’s (DLR) body. Baba says that one should (endeavour BEST to) remember the soul. But the body also comes to the mind along with the soul (AS LONG AS the soul is STILL in the consciousness of the GROSS or SUBTLE body). First body, then soul. (Shiv)Baba is sitting in THIS body (of REAL Adi Dev or REAL Prajapita Brahma DLR, in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date). So the body will also come to the mind surely (AS LONG AS you are STILL body-conscious)."
(13-5-69 pg-1)
From here - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1217&p=48008&hilit=peace#p48008
BKWSU Rev SM dated 28.12.2002 wrote: Only the ONE Father is the Ocean of Knowledge. He shows you the ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE path – Children, now Remember Me so that your sins can be incinerated. You must NOT Remember ANY BODILY BEING! The Yoga of your Intellect should remain united UP ABOVE! It is NOT that BABA is here, so your Intellect should also be here! EVEN THOUGH BABA is here (in the corporeal vehicle of BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani) then also the Yoga of your Intellect should remain united in the World of Peace (Shantidham)!
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND the CORRECT SEQUENCE (in the PROGRESSIVE spiritually ASCENDING ORDER), in which the points of Knowledge have been spoken by ShivBaba or God, in accordance with the PROGRESSIVE development of soul-consciousness of CONCERNED Children, and who do not MIX UP earlier IMMATERIAL, IRRELEVANT & INCOMPETENT points with the LATER RELEVANT & COMPETENT points - and hence are NOT CONFUSED about same, since they are ABLE to CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATE between the SCOPE & PURPOSE of the earlier points of Knowledge vis-à-vis the later points of Knowledge, in the SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT of CONCERNED SOULS, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS Children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND the CORRECT SEQUENCE (in the PROGRESSIVE spiritually ASCENDING ORDER), in which the points of Knowledge have been spoken by ShivBaba or God, (in accordance with the PROGRESSIVE development of soul-consciousness of CONCERNED Children), and THEREFORE, who MIX UP, or are influenced by ONLY the earlier IMMATERIAL, IRRELEVANT & INCOMPETENT points, by COMPLETELY IGNORING the LATER RELEVANT & COMPETENT points - and hence are TOTALLY CONFUSED about same, since they are NOT ABLE to CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATE between the SCOPE & PURPOSE of the earlier points of Knowledge vis-à-vis the later points of Knowledge, (in the SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT of CONCERNED SOULS), and what is their final destination?
BKWSU SM, Revised 08.09.2015 wrote: मनुष्य बिल्कुल घोर नींद में हैं फिर अचानक पता पड़ेगा - यह तो सच कहते थे। सच को तब समझें जब सच का संग हो। तुम अभी सच के संग में हो। तुम सत बनते हो सत बाप द्वारा। वह सब असत्य बनते हैं, असत्य द्वारा। अभी कान्ट्रास्ट भी छपा रहे हैं कि भगवान क्या कहते हैं और मनुष्य क्या कहते हैं।

Human beings are in DEEP SLEEP. They will then SUDDENLY REALIZE that you were telling the TRUTH. One can UNDERSTAND the truth ONLY when one has the company of the Truth. You ARE NOW in the company of the Truth. You become TRUE through the TRUE Father. All of them become false in the company of falsehood. You have now had the contrast printed between what God says and what human beings say.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND the TRUTH, because they NOW CLEARLY EXPERIENCE the COMPANY of TRUTH, and who become TRUE through the CONSTANT COMPANY of the TRUE Father, ShivBaba or God, and who are involved in HIGHLIGHTING the CLEAR CONTRAST between what God ACTUALLY says and what human bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors DECEPTIVELY say, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND the TRUTH, because they are NOW NOT in the COMPANY of TRUTH, and who are STILL in the DEEP SLEEP of body-consciousness (and THEREFORE, who CANNOT become TRUE since they DO NOT have the CONSTANT COMPANY of the TRUE Father, ShivBaba or God), and who become FALSE in the constant company of FALSEHOOD of the CORRUPTED Knowledge of bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors, (and THEREFORE, who are NOT ABLE to appreciate or DIFFERENTIATE the CLEAR CONTRAST between what God ACTUALLY says and what human bodily ‘gurus’ or preceptors DECEPTIVELY say - and who will SUDDENLY realize that the RIGHTEOUS Children were ONLY telling the ACTUAL TRUTH all along - but ONLY at the very END, when it will be TOO LATE), and what is their final destination?

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Post by admin » 17 Sep 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 17.09.2015 wrote: तो युनिवर्सिटी है ही एक बाप की, जो सारे विश्व की सद्गति करते हैं। वास्तव में युनिवर्सिटी यह एक ही है। इन द्वारा ही सब मुक्ति- जीवनमुक्ति में जाते हैं अर्थात् शान्ति और सुख को प्राप्त करते हैं। युनिवर्स तो यह हुआ ना, इसलिए बाबा कहते हैं डरो मत। यह तो समझाने की बात है।

Only this University is of the ONE Father who grants Salvation to the whole World. In fact, there is ONLY THIS ONE University and it is through ONLY THIS that everyone passes into liberation and liberation-in-life; that is, they attain peace and happiness. This is a Universe, is it not? This is why Baba says:
Don’t be afraid. This is something that has to be explained.

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that there is ONLY ONE UNIVERSITY of the ONE Father - ShivBaba or God - who grants Salvation to the whole World; and that it is ONLY through THIS ONE UNIVERSITY that EVERYONE passes into Liberation and Liberation-in-Life; and therefore ONLY THIS ONE UNIVERSITY is the Godly University, in the Confluence Age, through which EVERYONE can attain Peace and Happiness, (and any other university ‘MIMICKING’ this University - by UNLAWFULLY, ILLEGALLY and EXTENSIVELY utilising the original Versions of God promulgated through this Godly University, in the Confluence Age - would ONLY be considered to be the DoGly university, established by Ravan or Maya to DEFAME and OPPOSE God, in order to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya or the ‘Path of Devotion’, in the latter part of the Confluence Age, after 1969), and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that there is ONLY ONE UNIVERSITY of the ONE Father - ShivBaba or God - who grants Salvation to the whole World, in the Confluence Age; and that it is ONLY through that ONE UNIVERSITY that everyone passes into Liberation and Liberation-in-Life; and therefore ONLY that ONE UNIVERSITY is the Godly University, in the Confluence Age, through which EVERYONE can attain Peace and Happiness;
and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who are COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS of the fact that any other university ‘MIMICKING’ that University - by UNLAWFULLY, ILLEGALLY and EXTENSIVELY utilising the original Versions of God promulgated through that Godly University, in the Confluence Age - would ONLY be considered to be the DoGly university, established by Ravan or Maya to DEFAME and OPPOSE God, (in order to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya or the ‘Path of Devotion’, in the latter part of the Confluence Age, after 1969);
= as a DIRECT consequence of which the UNRIGHTEOUS children are DELUSIVELY inclined to believe that WHATEVER Versions God had ACTUALLY spoken in the SMs and AVs are the interpretations of embodied human souls or of those who consider themselves to be the Righteous Children; and
WHATEVER a human bodily ‘guru’ or preceptor propagates, (under the ACTIVE influence of Ravan or Maya) - by TOTALLY CORRUPTING, ADULTERATING & MISREPRESENTING those VERY SAME Versions, while MASQUERADING as ShivBaba or God, in the latter part of the Confluence Age, after 1969, being instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya or the ‘Path of Devotion’ - are ACTUALLY the Versions of God !!! =
and what is their final destination?

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Post by admin » 22 Sep 2015

BKWSU AV 28.01.1980, Revised 20.09.2015 wrote: “जैसा साकार ब्रह्मा और सम्पूर्ण ब्रह्मा, दोनों के अन्तर को देखते और अनुभव करते थे कि पुरुषार्थी और सम्पूर्ण में क्या अन्तर है।”
“You USED TO see and EXPERIENCE the difference between physical (corporeal) Brahma and perfect (‘Avyakt’ – Angel) Brahma. You could see the difference between the effort-making form and the perfect (angelic) form.”

“ऐसे साकार बाप को फालो करो। साकार को फालो करना तो सहज है ना। तो सम्पूर्ण फरिश्ता अर्थात् साकार बाप को फालो करना।”
“So, follow the ‘Sakar’ (corporeal) Father in this way. It is easy to follow the ‘Sakar’ (corporeal) Father, is it not? Therefore, follow the perfect angel, that is, follow the ‘Sakar’ (corporeal) Father.”
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that when ShivBaba refers to the word ‘Sakar’ in the AVs, He is ACTUALLY referring to His ‘mukrar rath’, the imperishable SOUL of Brahma Baba (DLR) who played a role with Him in ‘Sakar’ or a perishable corporeal vehicle until 1969, (whose imperfect effort-making stage was being compared to his symbolic, representative perfect angelic stage, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, to enable him to achieve that perfect angelic stage, which he ACHIEVED in 1969, after transcending his perishable corporeal vehicle), and His VERY SAME ‘mukrar rath’, the VERY SAME imperishable SOUL of Brahma Baba is NOW playing a role with Him in ‘akar’ or an imperishable subtle vehicle, this COMBINATION being addressed as ‘BapDada’ or simply as ‘Baba’, who continue to meet the children through the instrumental corporeal vehicle of Dadi Gulzar, and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that when ShivBaba refers to the word ‘Sakar’ in the AVs, He is ACTUALLY referring to His ‘mukrar rath’, the imperishable SOUL of Brahma Baba (DLR) who played a role with Him in ‘Sakar’ or a perishable corporeal vehicle until 1969, (whose imperfect effort-making stage was being compared to his symbolic, representative perfect angelic stage, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, to enable him to achieve that perfect angelic stage, which he ACHIEVED in 1969, after transcending his perishable corporeal vehicle), and His VERY SAME ‘mukrar rath’, the VERY SAME imperishable SOUL of Brahma Baba is NOW playing a role with Him in ‘akar’ or an imperishable subtle vehicle, this COMBINATION being addressed as ‘BapDada’ or simply as ‘Baba’, who continue to meet the children through the instrumental corporeal vehicle of Dadi Gulzar;
and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who are DELUSIVELY made to BELIEVE that this word ‘Sakar’ is referring to ANOTHER soul who is playing a role as ‘Shankar’ in a corporeal body, YET AGAIN, after 1969, (DELUSIVELY under the impression that the earlier ‘mukrar rath’ of ShivBaba, which they consider as ‘temporary’, has perished when the SOUL of Brahma Baba transcended his corporeal vehicle, COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS of the fact that what they consider to be the ‘permanent’ ‘mukrar rath’ of another soul in a corporeal vehicle is ALSO PERISHABLE, and COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS of the fact that they have been DELUSIVELY made to ATTACH their intellect to a perishable corporeal vehicle, YET AGAIN, rather than TRANSCENDING SAME, and focusing their attention on REAL IMPERISHABLE BapDada or ‘Baba’, if they ACTUALLY desire to attain the TRUE goal), and what is their final destination?

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Post by admin » 24 Sep 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 22.09.2015 wrote: तुम समझा भी सकते हो शिवबाबा को बाप, ब्रह्मा को दादा कहते हैं। एक को कभी कोई बापदादा कहते हैं क्या? यह तो वन्डरफुल बात है, इसमें सच्चा-सच्चा ज्ञान है। परन्तु याद में रहें तब किसको तीर भी लगे। घड़ी-घड़ी देह-अभिमान में आ जाते हैं। बाप कहते हैं आत्म-अभिमानी बनो।

You can also explain that ShivBaba is ‘Bap’, and that Brahma (Baba) is ‘Dada’. Would just one soul be called BapDada? This aspect is something wonderful! This contains (absolutely) TRUE Knowledge. However, the arrow can only strike someone when one stays in remembrance. Some come into body-consciousness very quickly. The Father says: Become soul-conscious!
BKWSU AV 28.01.1980, Revised 20.09.2015 wrote: “पहले अन्तर सुनाकर फिर उनको कहो अब आप जज करो कि रचयिता कौन और रचना कौन! तो गीता का ज्ञान रचयिता ने दिया या रचना ने?”

“First, explain the difference and then tell them to judge for themselves as to who is the Creator and who is the creation. So, who gave the knowledge of the Gita: the Creator or the creation?”
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand, (and have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER), that ShivBaba or God Himself (ALONE) is ‘Bap’, and that Brahma Baba (DLR), who is the ‘mukrar rath’ or APPOINTED-FIXED-PERMANENT Chariot of ShivBaba or God, (ALONE) is ‘Dada’;
and who CLEARLY understand that ShivBaba or God COMBINED with Brahma Baba (DLR) are addressed as ‘BapDada’ or simply as ‘Baba’ by TRUE Brahmins; and that JUST ONE soul cannot be termed or addressed as BapDada - as MISTAKENLY or DELUSIVELY believed by some INNOCENT or IGNORANT children, under the TREACHEROUS INFLUENCE of Ravan or Maya;
and who DEFINITELY APPRECIATE that this aspect is something VERY WONDERFUL, which contains ABSOLUTELY TRUE Knowledge, COMPLETELY UNCORRUPTED & UNADULTERATED with any other embodied soul, in EITHER gross or subtle form;
and who CLEARLY understand that ALL OTHERS who CORRUPT & ADULTERATE this PUREST & HIGHEST COMBINATION with any other embodied soul, in EITHER gross or subtle form, are only IGNORANTLY or INNOCENTLY INVOLVED in simply carrying out the appropriate ‘shooting’ of their respective & corresponding CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED ‘sanskars’ or proclivities of the Path of Devotion or Ravan Rajya;
and who CLEARLY understand that the CREATOR is ONLY ONE INCORPOREAL SUPREME Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God who is the TRUE SERMONIZER of the TRUE Gita, while His ‘mukrar rath’ or APPOINTED-FIXED-PERMANENT Chariot, Brahma Baba (DLR) is the TOP-MOST & HIGHEST CREATION – (but who is NOT the sermonizer of the Gita), ALONG with his soul-mate, Om Radhe or Mama - within ENTIRE humanity or among ALL embodied human souls, (without any slightest doubt whatsoever);
and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY understand, (and who are COMPLETELY CONFUSED & CONFOUNDED about the FACT), that ShivBaba or God Himself (ALONE) is ‘Bap’, and that Brahma Baba (DLR), who is the ‘mukrar rath’ or APPOINTED-FIXED-PERMANENT Chariot of ShivBaba or God, (ALONE) is ‘Dada’;
and who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that ONLY ‘ShivBaba or God COMBINED with Brahma Baba (DLR)’ are addressed as ‘BapDada’ or simply as ‘Baba’ by TRUE Brahmins; and that JUST ONE soul cannot be termed or addressed as BapDada - as MISTAKENLY or DELUSIVELY believed by them, due to their inherent INNOCENCE or IGNORANCE, under the TREACHEROUS INFLUENCE of Ravan or Maya;
and who DO NOT AT ALL APPRECIATE that this aspect is something VERY WONDERFUL, which contains ABSOLUTELY TRUE Knowledge, (COMPLETELY UNCORRUPTED & UNADULTERATED with any other embodied soul, in EITHER gross or subtle form);
and who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that ANYONE who CORRUPTS & ADULTERATES this PUREST & HIGHEST COMBINATION with any other embodied soul, in EITHER gross or subtle form, is only IGNORANTLY or INNOCENTLY INVOLVED in simply carrying out the appropriate ‘shooting’ of their respective & corresponding CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED ‘sanskars’ or proclivities of the Path of Devotion or Ravan Rajya;
and who DO NOT CLEARLY understand that, besides the CREATOR being the ONLY ONE INCORPOREAL SUPREME Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba or God who is the TRUE SERMONIZER of the TRUE Gita, His ‘mukrar rath’ or APPOINTED-FIXED-PERMANENT Chariot is, in FACT, Brahma Baba (DLR), who is the TOP-MOST & HIGHEST CREATION - (but who is NOT the sermonizer of the Gita), ALONG with his soul-mate, Om Radhe or Mama - within ENTIRE humanity or among ALL embodied human souls;
and what is their final destination?

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Post by admin » 23 Oct 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 24.09.2015 wrote: प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मण, वह तो सब भाई-बहन होने चाहिए। अगर वह अपने को ब्रह्मा की औलाद कहलाते हैं, तो भाई-बहन ही ठहरे, फिर शादी भी कर न सकें। सिद्ध होता है वह ब्राह्मण ब्रह्मा के मुख वंशावली नहीं हैं, सिर्फ नाम रख देते हैं। वास्तव में देवताओं से भी ऊंच ब्राह्मणों को कहेंगे, चोटी हैं ना। यह ब्राह्मण ही मनुष्यों को देवता बनाते हैं। पढ़ाने वाला है परमपिता परमात्मा, स्वयं ज्ञान का सागर। यह किसको भी पता नहीं है। बाप के पास आकर ब्राह्मण बनकर फिर भी कल शूद्र बन पड़ते हैं।

The mouth-born creation of Prajapita Brahma should be brothers and sisters. If they call themselves the children of Brahma, they must be brothers and sisters. Therefore, they cannot get married. So, this proves that those brahmins are not mouth-born creations of Brahma; they simply give themselves that name. In fact, you Brahmins are said to be even more elevated than the deities because you are the top-knot. You Brahmins change human beings into deities. It is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul who teaches you. He Himself is the Ocean of Knowledge. No one knows this. Some come to the Father and become Brahmins and they still become 'shudras' tomorrow!
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that ONLY they are the GENUINE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Prajapita Brahma, (soul of DLR, the first prince of the Golden Age), and so they are ‘Brothers & Sisters’, who cannot get 'married', (from the perspective of the Night of the Cycle), and who cannot procreate children by once again allowing themselves to be trapped in the vicious grip of the vice of lust;
and who CLEARLY understand that those who get 'married', (from the perspective of the Night of the Cycle), after receiving the Purest Knowledge, and procreate children by once again allowing themselves to be trapped in the vicious grip of the vice of lust, PROVE that they are actually NOT the GENUINE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, but simply give themselves that name, as being Brahmins, for name sake only, while carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ or Ravan Rajya, DELUSIVELY believing that they are following the Pure Shrimat of ShivBaba, whereas, IN FACT, they are ACTUALLY following the IMPURE DICTATES of Ravan or Maya through the appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot of Ravan, (who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, in the latter part of the Confluence Age); and therefore they are the ones who come to the True Father to become True Brahmins, but then STILL get influenced by Ravan or Maya and then become FALSE brahmins or 'shudras', and thereafter involve themselves in OPPOSING & INSULTING God by ADULTERATING & CORRUPTING God’s Pure Versions in the SMs and AVs in TOTALITY, (to be ACCURATELY in consonance with the CORRUPTED CONCEPTS of the ‘Path of Devotion’ or Ravan Rajya), and DELUSIVELY believe, (and also TRICK or DECEIVE others into believing), that they are ‘On Godly Service’, when ACTUALLY they are ‘On Goonly Service’ of Ravan or Maya;
and who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY understand that ONLY they are more elevated than the deities, because they are the ‘top-knot’ who become instrumental to change vicious human beings into elevated deities; and are the ONLY ONES who Re-Cognize, 'Real-Eyes' & understand that God, the Ocean of Knowledge, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Himself TEACHES & SUSTAINS them through the appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot of Prajapita Brahma (DLR, the first prince of the Golden Age), in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date; and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT clearly understand that ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Children are the GENUINE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Prajapita Brahma, (soul of DLR, the first prince of the Golden Age), and so they are ‘Brothers & Sisters’, who cannot get 'married', (from the perspective of the Night of the Cycle), and who cannot procreate children by once again allowing themselves to be trapped in the vicious grip of the vice of lust;
and who DO NOT clearly understand that those who get 'married', (from the perspective of the Night of the Cycle), after receiving the Purest Knowledge, and procreate children by once again allowing themselves to be trapped in the vicious grip of the vice of lust, PROVE that they are actually NOT the GENUINE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, but simply give themselves that name, as being Brahmins, for name sake only, while carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ or Ravan Rajya, DELUSIVELY believing that they are following the Pure Shrimat of ShivBaba, (whereas, IN FACT, they are ACTUALLY following the IMPURE DICTATES of Ravan or Maya through the appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot of Ravan, who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, in the latter part of the Confluence Age); and therefore they are the ones who come to the True Father to become True Brahmins, but then STILL get influenced by Ravan or Maya and then become FALSE Brahmins or shudras, and thereafter involve themselves in OPPOSING & INSULTING God by ADULTERATING & CORRUPTING God’s Pure Versions in the SMs and AVs in TOTALITY, (to be ACCURATELY in consonance with the CORRUPTED CONCEPTS of the ‘Path of Devotion’ or Ravan Rajya), and DELUSIVELY believe, (and also TRICK or DECEIVE others into believing), that they are ‘On Godly Service’, when ACTUALLY they are ‘On Goonly Service’ of Ravan or Maya;
and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT clearly understand that ONLY the RIGHTEOUS Children are more elevated than the deities, because they are the ‘top-knot’ who become instrumental to change vicious human beings into elevated deities; and that the RIGHTEOUS Children are the ONLY ONES who Re-Cognize, 'Real-Eyes' & understand that God, the Ocean of Knowledge, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Himself TEACHES & SUSTAINS them through the appointed, fixed, permanent Chariot of Prajapita Brahma (DLR, the first prince of the Golden Age), in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date;
and what is their final destination?

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Post by admin » 14 Dec 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 14.12.2015 wrote: यहाँ तुम्हारी बुद्धि में है अब हमको वापिस जाना है बाबा के पास। फिर यहाँ आकर विष्णु की माला में पिरोना है। माला का हिसाब करें। माला तो ब्रह्मा की भी है, विष्णु की भी है, रूद्र की भी है। पहले-पहले नई सृष्टि के यह हैं ना। बाकी सब पीछे आते हैं। गोया पिछाड़ी में पिरोते हैं।

Here (in this corporeal world), it is in your intellects that you have to return back (to the incorporeal world) to Baba. Then you will come back here (in the Golden Age) and be threaded in the rosary of Vishnu. Just think about (account of) all the rosaries! There is the rosary of Brahma, the rosary of Vishnu and the rosary of Rudra. THIS ONE (soul of DLR, Brahma Baba - the FIRST prince of the Golden Age) is the FIRST ONE of the NEW WORLD. [ THESE ONES (soul of DLR, Brahma Baba - the FIRST prince of the Golden Age & soul of Om Radhe, Saraswati - the FIRST princess of Golden Age) are the FIRST ONES of the NEW WORLD ]. All the rest come later, that is, they are threaded later (in the rosary).

Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that the 108 souls of EACH of the (FINAL) rosary of Brahma (Brahma Baba, soul of DLR - FIRST prince of the Golden Age), the rosary of Rudra (Shiva, ShivBaba or God), and rosary of Vishnu (combined form of dual-beads or soul-mates - souls of DLR & Om Radhe) are EXACTLY the SAME;
and who clearly understand that the rosary of Brahma pertains to the effort-making period of Confluence Age, where the beads of the rosary keep on changing depending on the efforts of concerned souls during the intermediary period in question; while the rosary of Rudra pertains to the FINAL COMPLETE stage of souls at the VERY END of Confluence Age (which cannot CHANGE thereafter); and the rosary of Vishnu pertains to these VERY SAME SOULS (of the rosary of Rudra) in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age; and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that the 108 souls of EACH of the (FINAL) rosary of Brahma (Brahma Baba, soul of DLR - FIRST prince of the Golden Age), the rosary of Rudra (Shiva, ShivBaba or God), and rosary of Vishnu (combined form of dual-beads or soul-mates - souls of DLR & Om Radhe) are EXACTLY the SAME;
and who DO NOT clearly understand that the rosary of Brahma pertains to the effort-making period of Confluence Age, where the beads of the rosary keep on changing depending on the efforts of concerned souls during the intermediary period in question; while the rosary of Rudra pertains to the FINAL COMPLETE stage of souls at the VERY END of Confluence Age (which cannot CHANGE thereafter); and the rosary of Vishnu pertains to these VERY SAME SOULS (of the rosary of Rudra) in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age; and what is their final destination?

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Post by admin » 24 Dec 2015

BKWSU SM, Revised 24.12.2015 wrote: तुम पहले सतोप्रधान थे, सतो-रजो-तमो में तुमने पूरे 84 जन्म लिए हैं। उसमें भी नम्बरवन यह (ब्रह्मा) है। औरों के 83 जन्म भी हो सकते हैं इनके लिए पूरे 84 जन्म हैं। यह पहले-पहले श्री नारायण थे। इनके लिए कहते गोया सबके लिए समझ जाते, बहुत जन्मों के अन्त में ज्ञान लेकर फिर वह नारायण बनते हैं। झाड़ में भी दिखाया है ना– यहाँ श्री नारायण और पिछाड़ी में ब्रह्मा खड़ा है। नीचे राजयोग सीख रहे हैं। प्रजापिता को कभी परमपिता नहीं कहेंगे। परमपिता एक को कहा जाता है। प्रजापिता फिर इनको कहा जाता। यह देहधारी है, वह विदेही, विचित्र है। लौकिक बाप को पिता कहेंगे, इनको प्रजापिता कहेंगे। वह परमपिता तो परमधाम में रहते हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा परमधाम में नहीं कहेंगे। वह तो यहाँ साकारी दुनिया में हो गया। सूक्ष्मवतन में भी नहीं है। प्रजा तो है स्थूल-वतन में। प्रजापिता को भगवान नहीं कहा जाता है। भगवान का कोई शरीर का नाम नहीं। मनुष्य तन जिस पर नाम पड़ते हैं, उनसे वह न्यारा है।

You were 'satopradhan' (COMPLETELY PURE) at first. You have taken the full 84 births in the sato, rajo and tamo stages. Among you also, THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) is number ONE. For others, it can be just 83 births, but THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) takes FULL 84 births. At first (in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age), THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) was Shri Narayan. To say something about THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) means it also refers to everyone else; he (Brhama Baba) takes this Knowledge at the end of his many births and then becomes Narayan. In the picture of the Tree, he is shown as Shri Narayan at the beginning, and then as Brahma, standing at the end. Down below (in Confluence Age), he is studying Raja Yoga (until he becomes a COMPLETE ANGEL, in 1969). The Father of the People (Prajapita -Brahma Baba) can never be called the Supreme Father. Only the ONE (God-Father Shiva) can be called the Supreme Father. THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) is called the Father of the People (Prajapita). THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) is a bodily being whereas that One (Supreme Soul Shiva) is bodiless, without an image. A physical Father is called a father and THIS ONE (Brahma Baba) is called the Father of the People (Prajapita). That Supreme Father resides in the supreme abode. You wouldn’t say that the Father of the People resides in the supreme abode. He (Prajapita Brahma - Brahma Baba, soul of DLR) exists here in the corporeal world (in 'Sakar' until 1969 and in 'akar' to date). He doesn’t even exist in the Subtle Region (which is only a symbolic representation of perfect forms). It is in the corporeal world that people exist (in 'Sakar' or 'akar' - in corporeal bodies or subtle bodies). The Father of the People (Prajapita) cannot be called God. God doesn’t have a bodily name. He is separate from the human body that is given a name.

आत्मा का ज्ञान भी बाप तुमको तब सुनाते हैं जब समझदार बनते हो। तो तुम दिन-प्रतिदिन उन्नति को पाते रहते हो। पहले-पहले तो बाबा बहुत थोड़ा-थोड़ा सुनाता था। वण्डरफुल बातें थी फिर भी कशिश तो थी ना। उसने खींचा।

It is only when you are able to understand the knowledge of the soul that the Father gives it to you. You continue to progress day by day. In the beginning Baba used to explain very little to you. They were wonderful things, and they also had an attraction which pulled you.

बाप कहते हैं दिन-प्रतिदिन तुमको गुह्य प्वाइंट्स समझाते रहते हैं। आगे की ढेर प्वाइंट्स तुम्हारे पास रखी हैं। वह अभी क्या करेंगे। ऐसे ही पड़ी रहती हैं। प्रेजन्ट तो बापदादा नई-नई प्वाइंट समझाते रहते हैं। आत्मा इतनी छोटी सी बिंदी है, उनमें सारा पार्ट भरा हुआ है। यह प्वाइंट कोई आगे वाली कापियों में थोड़ेही होंगी। फिर पुरानी प्वाइंट्स को तुम क्या करेंगे। पिछाड़ी की रिजल्ट ही काम आती है। बाप कहते हैं कल्प पहले भी तुमको ऐसे ही सुनाया था। नम्बरवार पढ़ते रहते हैं।

The Father says: Day by day, I explain very deep points to you. You have so many points from the early days. What will you do with those now? (THEY ARE OF NO USE NOW)!!! They will be left just like that. At present BapDada continues to explain new points. A soul is such a tiny point and has all of the part recorded within. This point (of Knowledge) is not in the notebooks of your early days. So, what will you do with the old points now? (THEY ARE OF NO USE NOW)!!!
It is only the (PRACTICAL) result AT THE END that will be useful. The Father says: I spoke this to you in the same way in the previous cycle too. You continue to study, number-wise.
Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that the soul of the FIRST prince of Golden Age (in his last 84th body, as DLR or Brahma Baba), is number ONE among ALL embodied souls, who takes FULL 84 births; and is the REAL Prajapita or 'Father of the People', who operates in this corporeal world, (in 'Sakar' until 1969 and in 'akar' to date); and through whose LOTUS MOUTH the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God-Father Shiva gives spiritual rebirth to the PRINCIPAL SOVEREIGNS of Golden and Silver Ages (through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in 'Sakar' until 1969); and continues to sustain THEM, as well as other souls, who have developed a subtle stage of consciousness (through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, in 'akar' to date, using the instrumental corporeal vehicle of DG);
[Therefore, BOTH the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God-Father Shiva or ShivBaba, as well as Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR are fathers - ONE is the INCORPOREAL or 'Nirakari' Father of bodiless souls, and the OTHER is the SUBTLE or 'Akari' Father of all embodied souls!]

and who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND and EXPERIENCE that the individual embodied soul, as well as the Supreme Soul, is a very TINY POINT of spiritual light energy; and that MOST of the OLD, EARLIER points of Knowledge are of NO USE now (and therefore should simply be IGNORED), as BapDada continue to explain and 'touch' new points of Knowledge, in accordance with the CAPACITY of embodied souls to understand and 'catch' the subtlest points of Knowledge with the progressively evolving subtle stage of consciousness of embodied souls, number-wise - in accordance with their respective roles within Drama;
and what is their final destination?

Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that the soul of the FIRST prince of Golden Age (in his last 84th body, as DLR or Brahma Baba), is number ONE among ALL embodied souls, who takes FULL 84 births; and is the REAL Prajapita or 'Father of the People', who operates in this corporeal world, (in 'Sakar' until 1969 and in 'akar' to date); and through whose LOTUS MOUTH the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God-Father Shiva gives spiritual rebirth to the PRINCIPAL SOVEREIGNS of Golden and Silver Ages (through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in 'Sakar' until 1969); and continues to sustain THEM, as well as other souls, who have developed a subtle stage of consciousness (through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, in 'akar' to date, using the instrumental corporeal vehicle of DG);
[As a direct consequence of which such UNRIGHTEOUS children, are UNABLE to develop a subtle stage of consciousness, and hence are UNABLE to receive the subtle sustenance of ShivBaba through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, as a result of which, they are left with no other option but to consider the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba, 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc., as the 'fixed, appointed, permanent Chariot of God, when in REALITY that is the PRINCIPAL Chariot of Ravan or Maya, instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya VIGOROUSLY in the latter part of Confluence Age, as per Drama Plan];

and who DO NOT clearly understand or EXPERIENCE that the individual embodied soul, as well as the Supreme Soul, is a very TINY POINT of spiritual light energy; and that MOST of the OLD, EARLIER points of Knowledge are of NO USE now (and therefore should simply be IGNORED), as BapDada continue to explain and 'touch' new points of Knowledge, in accordance with the CAPACITY of embodied souls to understand and 'catch' the subtlest points of Knowledge with the progressively evolving subtle stage of consciousness of embodied souls, number-wise - in accordance with their respective roles within Drama ;
[As a direct consequence of which such UNRIGHTEOUS children, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, continue to use such OLD, OUTDATED and OBSOLETE points of Knowledge to COMPLETELY MISREPRESENT and MISAPPROPRIATE the PURE Knowledge of God, thereby CORRUPTING, ADULTERATING, ALTERING, POLLUTING, MODIFYING and REVERSING the pure intent of God, to be in accurate consonance with the ADULTERATED and CORRUPTED knowledge contained in the scriptures, pictures and memorials of the outer broad drama, thereby being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya in the Confluence Age];
and what is their final destination?

Depending on our 'belief & faith’, understanding & ACTUAL experience, so will be our INCULCATION, number-wise, to reach our desired destination!

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Post by admin » 02 Jan 2016

BKWSU SM, Revised 02.01.2016 wrote: 1. बच्चे चिट्ठी लिखते हैं तो एड्रेस लिखते हैं-शिवबाबा केअरआफ ब्रह्मा बाबा। शिवबाबा है आत्माओं का बाप और ब्रह्मा को कहा जाता है आदि देव, एडम, दादा। दादा में बाप आते हैं, कहते हैं तुमने मुझे बुलाया है - हे पतित-पावन आओ।

When (the RIGHTEOUS) Children write a letter, they put the address: “ShivBaba, c/o Brahma Baba”. ShivBaba (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or God) is the Father of souls and Brahma (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR) is called Adi Dev, Adam, Dada. The Father (God) comes in Dada (DLR) and says: You called out to Me: O Purifier, come!

2. पहले-पहले है ब्राह्मण कुल; प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी गाया जाता है ना। जिसको एडम, आदि देव कहा जाता है। यह कोई को पता नहीं है। बहुत हैं जो आकर सुनकर फिर माया के वश हो जाते हैं। पुण्यात्मा बनते-बनते पाप आत्मा बन जाते हैं। माया बड़ी जबरदस्त है, सबको पाप आत्मा बना देती है।

First of all there is the Brahmin clan. Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba, DLR) is also remembered (by the RIGHTEOUS Children), who is called Adam and Adi Dev. No one (ANY of the UNRIGHTEOUS children) knows this. There are many who come and listen to this Knowledge, but then get influenced by Maya. While becoming pure, charitable souls, they (the UNRIGHTEOUS children) become sinful souls. Maya is very forceful. She makes EVERYONE (of the UNRIGHTEOUS children) into a sinful soul (who OPPOSE, DEFAME & INSULT God).

3. शास्त्र तो इस दादा ने बहुत पढ़े हैं। बाप नहीं पढ़ते हैं। बाप तो खुद सद्गति दाता है। उनको तो कोई शास्त्र पढ़ने की दरकार नहीं। करके सिर्फ रेफर करते हैं सो भी सिर्फ गीता को। सर्व शास्त्रमई शिरोमणी गीता भगवान ने गाई है। परन्तु भगवान किसको कहा जाता है यह भारतवासी नहीं जानते। बाप को सर्वव्यापी कह देते हैं तो यह जैसे डिफेम करते हैं। बाप की इन्सल्ट करते हैं इसीलिए पतित बन जाते हैं।

This Dada (Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR) has studied many scriptures. The Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or God) doesn’t study them. The Father Himself is the Bestower of Salvation. He (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva or God) DOES NOT NEED to study any scriptures. He just refers to them, and that too, only to the Gita. God spoke the Gita, which is the Jewel of all scriptures, but the people of Bharat (ALL the UNRIGHTEOUS children) don’t know who God is. They say that the Father is omnipresent (OR that He is present or comes in ANOTHER embodied soul). It is as though they (ALL the UNRIGHTEOUS children) DEFAME Him. They (ALL the UNRIGHTEOUS children) INSULT the Father and this is why they become impure.
1. Who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ShivBaba or God is the (UNLIMITED – ‘behad’) Father of ALL BODILESS souls; and Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR (who is also called Adi Dev, Adam or Dada) is the (UNLIMITED – ‘behad’) Father (besides ALSO being the UNLIMITED Mother) of ALL EMBODIED souls; and he is the FIXED, APPOINTED, PERMANENT Chariot or ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, into whom God enters and gives re-birth to, sustains & destroys the negativity within, or PURIFIES (in the Trimurti forms of BVS) the RIGHTEOUS Children - in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date;

[and when such RIGHTEOUS Children write letters, they put the address: “ShivBaba, c/o Brahma Baba”, to date - fully conscious of the subtle machinery in place, by virtue of which BapDada are aware of the actual contents of such letters even as EACH CHILD is INVOLVED in writing same, and EVEN BEFORE they actually (physically) reach Madhuban!!!]

2. And who are the RIGHTEOUS Children who CLEARLY UNDERSTAND and EXPERIENCE that they belong to the TRUE Brahmin clan, regenerated by God in Confluence Age, through Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR, (who is also remembered as Adam or Adi Dev);

[and who are also aware that the UNRIGHTEOUS children CANNOT ACCEPT Brahma Baba, DLR, as Prajapita Brahma, Adam or Adi Dev, since they come and listen to this Knowledge which WAS given through the LOTUS mouth of DLR, but THEN get influenced by Maya, (who is EXTREMELY TREACHEROUS & FORCEFUL, and who TURNS their INTELLECTS COMPLETELY by 180 DEGREES, USING the VERY SAME POINTS in the ORIGINAL SMs and AVs to TRICK and DECEIVE them, WHOLESALE, into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that such CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED DISTORTIONS are the clarifications which constitute the so-called advanced –knowledge originating from God through His role as ‘Shankar’, when, IN FACT, they are the TREACHEROUS DISTORTIONS of the PURE Knowledge of God), who TURNS them into SINFUL SOULS and utilises their services to OPPOSE, DEFAME & INSULT God, making them DELUSIVELY believe that they are actually ‘On GODly Service’, when, IN FACT, they are on the treacherous service of the DEVIL (himself) or ‘On DoGly Service’;]
and what is their final destination?

1. Who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ShivBaba or God is the (UNLIMITED – ‘behad’) Father of ALL BODILESS souls; and Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, DLR (who is also called Adi Dev, Adam or Dada) is the (UNLIMITED – ‘behad’) Father (besides ALSO being the UNLIMITED Mother) of ALL EMBODIED souls; and he is the FIXED, APPOINTED, PERMANENT Chariot or ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, into whom God enters and gives re-birth to, sustains & destroys the negativity within, or PURIFIES (in the Trimurti forms of BVS) the RIGHTEOUS Children - in ‘Sakar’ until 1969, and in ‘akar’ to date;

[and such UNRIGHTEOUS Children are NOT AFFORDED the privilege of writing letters to BapDada, by putting the address: “ShivBaba, c/o Brahma Baba”, currently – (since they are NOT conscious of the subtle machinery in place, by virtue of which BapDada are aware of the actual contents of such letters even as EACH CHILD is INVOLVED in writing same, and EVEN BEFORE they actually or physically reach Madhuban), and therefore are left with NO OTHER OPTION but to write letters to ANOTHER embodied soul, delusively believing that SUCH OTHER embodied soul is actually the fixed, appointed, permanent Chariot of God or 'ABSOLUTE ShivBaba', when, IN FACT, such other soul is ONLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as APPARENT ‘ShivBaba’, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age, as per Drama Plan;]

2. And who are the UNRIGHTEOUS children who DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND that they ACTUALLY belong to the FALSE Brahmin clan, regenerated by Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as God in Confluence Age, through their FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’, who is also DELUSIVELY CONSIDERED by them to be ‘Adam’ or ‘Adi Dev’;

[and who CANNOT ACCEPT Brahma Baba, DLR, as Prajapita Brahma Adam or Adi Dev, since they come and listen to this Knowledge which WAS given through the LOTUS mouth of DLR, but THEN get influenced by Maya, (who is EXTREMELY TREACHEROUS & FORCEFUL, and who TURNS their INTELLECTS COMPLETELY by 180 DEGREES, USING the VERY SAME POINTS in the ORIGINAL SMs and AVs to TRICK and DECEIVE THEM, WHOLESALE, into DELUSIVELY BELIEVING that such CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED DISTORTIONS are the clarifications which constitute the so-called advanced –knowledge originating from God through His role as ‘Shankar’, when, IN FACT, they are the DISTORTIONS of the PURE Knowledge of God), and are not able to APPRECIATE that Ravan or Maya TURNS them into SINFUL SOULS and utilises their services to OPPOSE, DEFAME & INSULT God, making them DELUSIVELY believe that they are actually ‘On GODly Service’, when, IN FACT, they are on the treacherous service of the DEVIL (himself) or ‘On DoGly Service’;]
and what is their final destination?

Depending on our 'belief & faith’, understanding & ACTUAL experience, so will be our INCULCATION, number-wise, to reach our desired destination!

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