Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and others?

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by shiva » 09 Sep 2015

sita wrote:Of course, I have seen the video before posting. That is why you posted it, so that we see it.

It is true that BKs are given a training how to manage the PBKs. This additionally aggravates the situation. Some BKs have never even heard of the PBKs, but some are being fed manipulative information, for the sake of 'protecting' them.They are forbidden to associate with the PBKs.
You are 100% wrong my dear sita brother// whether you are in a male body or female body, i do not know// but with respect to the PARTICULAR vtp shown in the link, BKs sister-in-charge DID NOT train these new PBKs to pose those questions, which arose naturally in their own minds. Hence you are CLEARLY mistaken and wrong, so kindly DO NOT repeat the same deceptions AGAIN and AGAIN . . .

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Post by sita » 09 Sep 2015

I may be wrong somewhere, but it is hard to accept I am 100 percent wrong. Just for the statistics, I would most probably be at least half percent right. You can try to determine this small matter further yourself.

In the video, you have provided, it is discussed about the fact that how Jagdish Bhai used to teach BKs to address the advanced knowledge, and that newcomers should not be allowed in the sangathan, but this is the case not only with the BKs. Every newcomer follows one and the same procedure. In fact I don't quite get it what it is that has disturbed you in the video you have provided. Please, clarify.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by shiva » 11 Sep 2015

You are again mistaken, my dear sita brother,

The name of Jagdish Bhai has not been mentioned in that vtp or indicated by anyone there, and these questions are based on the intellectual understanding of new PBKs themselves. Please view again carefully. Do not try to protect or support any body, by deliberately divulging from the main issue at hand, by involving some other person. This forum should stand for searching truth of knowledge and not justifying wrong conduct or untruth.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by sita » 11 Sep 2015

It may not be mentioned in this video, but it is mentioned in other videos and it is a well known fact. Probably nowadays BKs are also given training, but they seem to be mostly advised to just ignore and avoid, and not listen, rather than put some points in reply.

In the advanced knowledge, sometimes it is spoken about specific features of the various religions, where the souls of the foreign religions are described to be firm in their own religion, an example to follow. They don't listen to other scriptures, other religious talk etc., in comparison to the bharatvasis who listen to whoever catches them by the ear, and say that whatever you speak is true.

Some BKs may even be watching vcds. You are an x-BK, that's why, probably, you are not that firm and watch vcds.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by mbbhat » 11 Sep 2015

sita wrote:In the video, you have provided, it is discussed about the fact that how Jagdish Bhai used to teach BKs to address the advanced knowledge,
it is a well known fact
I doubt this. Can you say when Jagadish Bhai started to train BKs in this regard,who were the first who had been trained, approximately how many had been trained? Any training materials?

If possible, you also mention how many times interaction/debates have happened between such trained BKs and AIVV?

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by sita » 11 Sep 2015

No, sorry, I don't have this information.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by mbbhat » 12 Sep 2015

If you do not have the information, how did you say- "It is a well known fact".

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Post by sita » 12 Sep 2015

I thought it was discussed here somewhere. It is at least known among the brahmins of the Advance Party.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by mbbhat » 12 Sep 2015

sita wrote:I thought it was discussed here somewhere. It is at least known among the Brahmins of the Advance Party.
It would be good if you have valid points, not just like hearsay or just false propaganda from AIVV.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by shiva » 18 Sep 2015

The rules are very rigid at bk centres, if any bk going to pbk centre and known to incharge sister of bk // the sister incharges are not permitting these students at bk centres, as such how can Didi and Dadi maharathis tell these questions to ask Virendra Dev Dixit during the vtp// these questions were generated in the mind of new PBKs who wanted to continue at pbk centre, but after seeing the rude response to these questions, the new PBKs got upset and discontinued, because of the bad opinion and arrogant behaviour of Virendra Dev Dixit; and another point is that a student PBK by name Chary was encouraged by Virendra Dev Dixit and aivv to argue or cross-question the questions asked by these new PBKs; in any university, it is permitted to ask the questions by students on getting doubts, but only teacher/professor clarifies those doubts, whereas in the aivv old PBKs were given full powers to override new PBKs, which was felt as bad behaviour by the new PBKs ... and also the sister incharges of BK centres do not know that these students are going to aivv, hence again they were not objected to continue to attend classes at bk centres//
AIVV Gyan is good, but students PBKs are utilising ulta Gyan and taking revenge on BKs incharges and students; what is the reason, we do not know// PBKs on this forum please do not irritate unnecessarily; search for truth - not Virendra Dev Dixit - you should not have blind faith//

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by sita » 19 Sep 2015

search for truth - not Veerendra Dev Dixit
For us this is where truth lies. Why do you like that we leave what we consider true?

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by arjun » 20 Sep 2015

Shiva wrote:AIVV Gyan is good, but students PBKs are utilising ulta Gyan and taking revenge on BKs incharges and students; what is the reason, we do not know
No PBK is taking any kind of revenge. This is just your misconception.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by mbbhat » 22 Sep 2015

No PBK is taking any kind of revenge.
May not be revenge. But obviously seems to be another false propaganda. PBKs have not yet replied to the simple query put here- who among the three souls spoke those words of criticisms. - viewtopic.php?f=39&t=492&p=50119#p50119

But, as per drama, it is perfectly alright.

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Re: Is it possible to improve relations of BKs, PBKs and oth

Post by arjun » 22 Sep 2015

Murli says that whatever words emerge through the body of Brahma should be considered as the words of ShivBaba. Even if anything wrong is uttered, then ShivBaba is sitting to rectify the mistake.

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