Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

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Re: Bharat!! Sach-khand or jhoot-khand??

Post by shivsena » 18 Aug 2015

Today's Murli 18-8-15 says : " भारत अब कौड़ी जैसा कंगाल है ना। भारतवासी खुद थोड़ेही जानते। "

Who is this Bharat who is insolvent ?? ... and who are these Bharatwasis who do not know this fact about Bharat. ?

The above point is not speaking about Bharat-India, but speaking about spiritual Bharat-BKWSU who has become spiritually insolvent(bankrupt) by spreading sarvavyapi ka Gyan(Shiv is bindi) for last 5 decades and the Bharatwasis-BKs are not aware of this fact.

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Re: Bharat!! Sach-khand or jhoot-khand??

Post by shivsena » 31 Aug 2015

Murli 31-8-15 says: " तुम भारतवासी ही परिस्तानी थे, अब कब्रिस्तानी बने हैं फिर ज्ञान चिता पर बैठ दैवी गुण धारण कर परिस्तानी बनते हैं।"

Who are the Bharatwasis described in the above point and what is Gyan-chita ??

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 14 Sep 2015

RudraPutra wrote: "Suni sunayein baaton se bharatwasi ne durgati paai."
"Bharatwasis have attained the downfall on believing hearsay"
To all PBKs.....In one of the posts 'Rudraputra Bhai' quoted the above point about bharatwasis but he has not given the date....i would like to know the date of this important point and would also like to know who are these 'Bharatwasis' in Sangamyug ... thanks.

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 15 Sep 2015

One pbk sent me the Murli date and point:

" सुनी सुनाइ बातो पर हि भारतबासीओ ने दुर्गति को पाया है।" मु. 30.1.71. पृ 1.
["Bharatwasis have achieved 'durgati' or downfall due to believing in hear-say."]

All PBKs consider Virendra Dev Dixit- as Ram-Bharat and themselves to be Bharatwasis.....so the above point is appropriately applicable to PBKs-bharatwasis who have believed, and are still mistakenly believing in the hear-say of their guru-Virendra Dev Dixit without doing their own independent study of Murlis-Vanis and thereby leading themselves to 'durgati' or carrying out the 'shooting' of their own downfall in the Confluence Age.

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 15 Oct 2015

To all BKs-PBKs.

Murli 14-10-15 says: प्रश्न: " बाबा भारतवासी बच्चों से विशेष कौन से प्रश्न पूछते हैं?
उत्तर: " तुम भारतवासी बच्चे जो इतने साहूकार थे, सर्वगुण सम्पन्न 16 कला सम्पूर्ण देवता धर्म के थे, तुम पवित्र थे, काम कटारी नहीं चलाते थे, बहुत धनवान थे। फिर तुमने इतना देवाला कैसे निकाला है - कारण का पता है? बच्चे, तुम गुलाम कैसे बन गये? इतना सब धन दौलत कहाँ गँवा दिया? ख्याल करो तुम पावन से पतित कैसे बन गये?"


English translation: Question: Which question does Baba especially ask the children of Bharat?
Answer: You children of Bharat were wealthy; you belonged to the deity religion and were 16 celestial degrees full. You were pure; you never used the sword of lust. You were very wealthy, so, how did you become bankrupt? Do you know the reason? Children, how did you become slaves? Where did you lose your wealth and property? Just think about how you became impure from pure.

I do not understood who are these Bharatwasi-bacche to whom Baba is talking to ?? ... and how they become gulam-slaves and insolvent-bankrupt ??

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 06 Nov 2015

To all BKs-PBKs.

Today's Murli 6-11-15 says : " यह नॉलेज भारतवासियों के लिए ही है।"
[ " This knowledge is for bharatwasis only"]

Bk-Gyan is distributed in all countries and in all religions....So which knowledge is for bharatwasis only ???
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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by fluffy bunny » 07 Nov 2015

I think that it's just an out-of-date statement Lekhraj Kirpalani once made before foreign expansion, and whilst he still had a simple, blinkered mind. Yet another thing he was wrong about and they had to change or re-write.

And now Virendra Dev Dixit and you are trying to make something metaphorical out of it. I think we should just accept it literally and that he made a mistake.

What do the BKs say, all BKs are Bharatwassis ... or have they just removed it?

And what do the PBKs say ... that the Bharatwassis are some specific sub-set of BKs/PBKs?

What were the previous and next paragraphs? We need the context it was said in.

It's interesting to see how Lekhraj Kirpalani vacillated over the period of his life from the early days when he just loved the British royalty to the middle period, when he rejected all foreigners as they rejected him; saw them all as just Christians and criticised them. He wrote all those letters to the King, Queen and Princess of England, the Viceroy, etc. He sent art-works and fancy gold books, etc. He was even decrying Gandhi and Congress as traitor/dictator and crow race to them - and yet none of the foreigners showed any interest in him as "God Brahma".

He must have felt rejected, and withdrew into himself, rejecting all the "science-proud monkeys" non-Bharatwassis.

Imagine, he sent 108 big hand-made illustrations to the then Royal Family of Indian (British) and then heard nothing back because they thought it was just nuts.

It makes you wonder, does it not? Did they wait and wait for a reply, and then feel disappointed? Then did they just start speaking bad of them?

Or did he examine his ego and decide he must have been hugely imbalanced to have done something so silly and expect something back?

What went on in his head? Did he have to re-assess his strategy?

At that time, he might have well received a very short polite letter back from one of the royal servants at Buckingham Palace, but that is all.

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 10 Nov 2015

To all BKs-PBKs.

Today's Murli 10-11-15 says: " भारतवासियों को ही बाप का पता नहीं है तो औरों को कहाँ से मिल सकता।" ... यह भी भारतवासियों को पता नहीं कि बाप ही सत्य कैसे है।
["Bharatwasis do not know who is Father..so how can others know. ... Bharatwasis do not know how Father is truth. "]

Who are these Bharatwasis in Sangamyug, who do not know the Father. ??
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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 16 Nov 2015

Today's Murli 16-11-15 says : " भारतवासी राव थे, अब रंक हैं।"
['' Bharatwasis were kings ..now they are paupers."]

Who are these bharatwasis who were kings and now they are paupers. ??
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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 07 Dec 2015

Today's Murli 7-12-15 says: " और धर्म वाले इन वर्णों में आते ही नहीं, भारतवासी ही इन वर्णों में आते हैं। ब्राह्मण भी भारतवासी ही बनते हैं, इसलिए बाप को भारत में आना पड़ता है।"
[" Those of other religions do not go through these castes. It is only Bharatwasis who go through these castes. Only Bharatwasis become brahmins. This is why the Father has to come into Bharat."]

Who are the souls of other religions who do not go through' the castes. (Brahmins-devtas-kshtriya-vaishya-Shudra) ??
Who are these Bharatwasis who go through' these castes. ??

If only Bharatwasis become Brahmins, then what about souls of other religions who have taken 7-days bk course and call themselves brahmins ??

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 08 Dec 2015

Today's Murli 8-12-15 says: " भारतवासी ही पूरा लायक और पूरा नालायक बनते हैं। और कोई नहीं।"
[" It is Bharatwasis who become completely worthy and completely unworthy, no one else. "]

Who are these Bharatwasis who become completely worthy and unworthy ??
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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 17 Dec 2015

Murli 15-12-15 says: " तुम आत्मा पूरे 84 जन्म लेकर तमोप्रधान बन गई हो। भारतवासी ही सतो-रजो-तमो बनते हैं। दूसरी कोई नेशनल्टी को नहीं कहेंगे कि पूरे 84 जन्म लिए हैं।"

Who are these Bharatwasis who take 84 births...and why do souls of other nationalities (America-Europe etc) do not take 84 births, inspite of taking bk-Gyan and becoming Brahmins....Can any bk-pbk please explain.

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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 06 Jan 2016

Murli 6-1-16 says: " भारतवासियों ने पूरा देवाला मारा है।"
["Bharatwasis have become fully insolvent"]

Who are these Bharatwasis in Sangamyug, who have become fully insolvent.??... and HOW ??
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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 16 Jan 2016

Murli 10-11-15 says: " यह भी भारतवासियों को पता नहीं कि बाप ही सत्य कैसे है।"

Who are these bharatwasis who do not know how Father is Truth. ???
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Re: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ??

Post by shivsena » 17 Jan 2016

Murli 17-1-16 [revised 4-1-80] says: " है भी विदेश विनाशी और भारत अविनाशी तो भारतवासियों ने स्थापना का किया और विदेशी विनाश के कार्य में विशेष निमित्त बनेंगे। भारतवासी बच्चों ने यज्ञ की स्थापना में अपनी आहुतियाँ डाल कर स्थापना की। यज्ञ रचा। और आप लोग फिर अन्तिम आहुति डालकर समाप्त करो। फिर जय जयकार हो जायेगा। अब जल्दी-जल्दी अन्तिम आहुति डालो। सब मिल करके एक संकल्प का स्वाहा करो तो समाप्ति हो जाएगी।"

[ " In fact, just as the foreign lands are perishable and Bharat is imperishable, so too the people of Bharat carried out the task of creation, and now you foreigners will become the special instruments for the task of destruction. Children from Bharat carried out creation by sacrificing themselves in creating the Yagya. They started the Yagya with their sacrifice and you now have to make the final sacrifice and finish the Yagya. There will then be victory. Now, make the final sacrifice very quickly. When all of you come together with one thought and make the final sacrifice, completion will take place."]

Who are Bharatwasi children who laid the foundation of the Yagya ??
Who are videshi children who are going to be nimit for ending-completion of the Yagya ??


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