better not to listen to all the PBKs!
Better not listen to any PBK. Every PBK will tell you this. Listen to one only. You have to always cross check against Shrimat whatever any BK or PBK says.
PBKs do not cross srimath
No one has ever claimed that. If we followed Shrimat completely that moment destruction would come. But we don't cross Shrimat of begging for money, keeping photo of Brahma, indulging in drishti among themselves, changing the pictures. It does not mean that one is not free to churn and share his opinion. You can see in discussion that souls even openly oppose whatever Baba says and he discusses with them in a very open and patient way. Baba has said in the Murli that we should write down our churning and send them to Baba and this is a help. But, as far as I have observed souls are more impressed with what Baba has said than with what this and that one has said.
It is true that some groups have also emerged that have created their own interpretations and they have their own Gods, but this is nothing new. Baba has said that everyone has a gift by birth to use, an intellect to judge what is right and wrong.
3) A very senior PBK soul Brother arjun has written this. He clearly says/implies subtle body does not exist at all?!
4) So- in PBK view- even point of light God or a soul is/are just imaginary, not exist at all???!
5) Beloved innocent arjun soul has even written on this forum - imaginary Paramdham. So- in their view- even the physical Paramdham is imaginary, Soul World do not exist at all?!
It is disappointing you are taking this course in discussion of such cheap misinterpretation. Is it said that the souls, the subtle body, Paramdham does not exist? Certainly not. It means that to imagine just a point of light means nothing. What is the proof the soul we imagine is the Supreme Soul? All souls are points of lights alike. Souls can be recognized only when they enter a body.
In the Murli it is said that the Subtle Region is nothing. It does not mean it does not exist. Subtle bodies of souls do exist. The Subtle Region is created in the Confluence Age through the knowledge, whilst the souls have been wandering in their subtle bodies for centuries. The subtle body is the vibration of a particular soul. If a soul leaves a body in an untimely death, it leaves in stress and wonders in its subtle body. It does not get a new body straight away. The point that is made is that the Subtle Region that is referred to in the knowledge and that the BK imagine to be somewhere cannot be located, because we cannot imagine it in a particular place. When we think about the Subtle Region where is our mind going? Subtle Region is shown to be above this corporeal world between this corporeal world and Paramdham. So it is everywhere around this world. If we go up above this corporeal world, we will reach that. We can reach that with our stage of thinking and churning when it detaches from the corporeal world and resides in the matters of the knowledge and matters of world service.
Same is with Paramdham. It is not that Paramdham does no exist. It is everywhere above this corporeal world. The point is that for the sake of our concentration we need a particular object. The idea about the Subtle Region and Paramdham does not make our mind to concentrate, because it is a very general matter. We know they exist, but our mind does not get a direction. Baba has also said that to remember up above is a path of Bhakti and the Shudra community remember up above. It is because Brahmins know that the Supreme Soul has come in Brahma and he is here in this corporeal world. It is easy to concentrate our mind on a particular object of this corporeal world, because there is a definite name, form, time, place, acts about that, through which we remember.
The 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, himself, not only DECEPTIVELY BEGS for money, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING the BLIND, Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the 'mukrar-rath' of God, but he ALSO DECEPTIVELY BEGS for Purity from the INNOCENT & IGNORANT 'kanyas' or spinsters, by DECEIVING them to PHYSICALLY COPULATE with him, giving them the FALSE impression that 'ShivBaba' is within him, performing the PRACTICAL ACT of Shankar, through which they would be able to conquer lust and remain stable in the remembrance of 'ShivBaba', and become pure naturally and quickly. However, his principal mate, with whom he has physically copulated EXTENSIVELY, and who is STILL considered to be THEIR 'JagadAmba', by the BLIND, Unrighteous children, left him, and continues to indulge in Spiritual PROSTITUTION & WHOREDOM, to date, while the BLIND, Unrighteous children STILL consider that this WorldMother of THEIRS is involved in purifying the impure children of the outer World!
The BLIND, Unrighteous children are ALSO TREACHEROUSLY & DECEPTIVELY TRICKED into constantly viewing the photo of THEIR 'Prajapita Brahma', MASQUERADING as 'Shankar', 'ShivBaba', etc., through the various VCD s, and keeping same imprinted on the SCREEN of their MINDS & 'Sanskars' - INSTEAD of Remembering REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, the WAY HE ACTUALLY is - a POINT source of Luminous, Spiritual Light Energy.
The BLIND, Unrighteous children are ALSO TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into taking the 'dhristi' from their bodily 'guru', (who has PROVED himself to be a MALE Spiritual PROSTITUTE, through his PRACTICAL ACTIONS, and who is ACTUALLY the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba'
), DELUSIVELY considering him to be the 'mukrar-rath' of God, through which process, they CONTINUE to carry out the 'shooting' of the Path of Spiritual Prostitution & Whoredom of Ravan Rajya, in the Confluence Age - ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN - PERFECTLY ORDAINED WITHIN THIS EWD PLAY - NOTHING NEW AT ALL - AND NOTHING TO BE PERTURBED ABOUT, BUT ONLY TO BE UNDERSTOOD IN THE CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, BY CONCERNED SOULS, INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF ACTUAL WORLD BENEFIT, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!
The BLIND, Unrighteous children ALSO continue to CONSTANTLY change the 'PICTURES' of their DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of their DEGRADED IDEOLOGY of Ravan Rajya, by SLYLY & DECEPTIVELY DODGING the Pure, UNADULTERATED Versions of God, in the SMs & AVs, like VICIOUS SNAKES and VIPERS - without even REAL-EYEsing what they are ACTUALLY doing, and without even being aware of the DIRE CONSEQUENCES for which they are become spiritually liable!
ALL the above MALPRACTICES of the Godly Form or 'Ishwariya Rup' of Ravan or Maya, PRACTICALLY PERFORMED through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the 'mukrar-rath' of God, in the SUBTLE SEED form within respective souls, are REFLECTED in the SUBTLE ROOT form within respective souls, and in the EVIDENT part of the TRUNK & respective BRANCHES of the VISIBLE TREE of the outer World, within respective souls!