1) PBKs on one hand, call themselves as pandavas, and BKs as kouravas, and the worldly people as yaadavas. Not sure what do they call about the later splinter groups like Vishnu Party, etc.
2) But, they usually claim about TWO groups- PBK Rudrmala (PBKs headed by Mr. Dixit) and PBK Vijayamala (the BK group headed by sister Vedanti), each of 2.25 lakh souls- who become perfect by the color of company of the other- who are going to be couples in Golden Age.
3) But, they then also say in advance part- there are three parties- by adding another group- which they call as INSPIRITING PARTY (the BKs who have left bodies). So- the PBK Advance Party now becomes set of three groups - as
---planning party (the PBK RudrMala),
---practical party (PBK Vijayamala), and
----Now- the total number will exceed more than 4.5 lakh souls! - which is a clear error.
Mr Dixit c/o arjun wrote: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=632&p=29087&hilit=engineers#p29087
Disc.CD No.479, dated 02.01.08 at Anantpur
Student: Through how many souls is the foundation for the new world laid? And till when?
Baba: Those who lay the foundation (for the new world) are of three types. When a house is built, there are persons who lay the foundation of the house. Initially there is a house owner. What? There is a house owner, isn’t it? He calls the craftsmen. He calls the Engineers. He says them, “You prepare this blueprint (naksha).” Hum? Yes. “You do this and this work.” And, he calls the labourers as well. So, he inspires everyone with the temptation of wealth, increases their zeal and enthusiasm. Engineer thinks , “Arey! I will get so much money. Let me prepare a good, nice map.” Even the worker says, “Arey, I am going to get so much money.” So, that worker builds a very nice building. And also the labourers think, “Arey, we will never be receiving such good wages as we are receiving here. So, he works with a lot of force.
So, the owner (of the house) who infuses zeal and enthusiasm is different. What? Second are the big engineers and big artisans. They plan and consult each other, “we should do like this; we should do like this. We should build like this.” And the third are those who carry the weight; they carry the bricks, carry the things, carry it down, and carry it above. They do a lot of hard work. So, even here there are three kinds of parties, who build the new world. Which ones? One (Someone said – planning) kind of souls are those which give inspiration to make the Golden Age like new world that will arrive, the heaven that will be made. What? The souls that increase the zeal and enthusiasm.
The Brahmakumar-kumaris who are leaving their bodies, are they not? Will those who are the ones to leave their bodies, become the first owners of the house-like Golden Age or not? Hum? There will be many. Suppose there is a child, a Father’s child; he is the owner (of his Father’s property), is he not? So, those souls are increasing the zeal and enthusiasm by entering as owners now. And the ones in whom those souls are entering, they are planning. They have a sharp intellect. They think, churn, and prepare very nice plans and give. It includes good artisans. Which are those souls? The ones in whom they are entering? They are the souls of the Advance Party. And third are not the ones to increase the zeal and enthusiasm; they are not the ones to prepare the maps and they are not the ones to do the planning either. But the house cannot be built without them. What? (Someone said – Practical party) Hum? So, they are the souls which have a lot of power of purity. Through which power are all the jobs of the world carried out?
(Someone said – through the power of purity) They take place through the power of purity. No task can be accomplished if there is no power of purity. However much you may keep thinking, you may keep using your brains, you may keep preparing the blueprints; nothing is going to happen. Gandhiji and his followers wanted to bring kingdom of Ram (Ramrajya). But they did not have the power of purity. So, what was made instead of Ramrajya? It became a kingdom of Ravan. First, the power of purity is required. So, there is also one such group in the world of Brahmins which has the power of purity. What? They are not intelligent enough to prepare the blueprint of the new world and to tell others. But they are very sharp craftsmen at building the house. So, that is a rosary of victory (Vijaymala). So, did you understand? What was the question? Repeat the question so that everyone can understand.
Student: The foundation of the Golden Age…...
Second student: Through how many souls is the foundation for the new world laid and…...
Baba: Did you understand it now?
Student: Until when?
Baba: So, did you understand? What? Those who lay the foundation for the new world include the souls of the basic party, which are leaving their bodies and, who else? They include the planning party of the Advance Party as well. Now two (groups) have come together. What? Now the third group has not come. And as soon as the third group comes the firm foundation will be laid
Note: The words in italics are Hindi words. Some words have been added in the brackets by the translator for better understanding of the translation.
4) Mr Dixit says-viewtopic.php?f=2&t=632&p=47901&hilit=poor+owner#p47901
Will the engineers themselves carry away the entire share? Or will the labourers who build the house take the entire share away? Will the poor house owner get nothing? Who inspires them to build? (Someone said: inspiriting party.)
---the planning party are like engineers,
---the practical part are like physical workers! (so- it again proves that in their view- the Vijayamala group is like cowardice).
----But, for the inspiriting party- he gives the title poor owner!
---So- Mr Dixit once again took second class position by giving the title OWNER to the inspiriting party.
But- he says the owner as poor! Logically it is wrong, as the owner will be most wealthy and in command.
5) Now- if in PBK view- the planning party are like engineers, and the practical party is like physical workers, then Mr. Dixit impies-
---No. of engineers = No. of workers! (usually no. of engineers would be much lesser than that of workers.
----Again - the wives of the engineers are workers! - - :laugh: Does this tally logically?
6) Now- what is the total no. of inspiriting party?
If PBKs mention that number as lesser, then they are inadvertently implying- the third party is the most superior!
---If they give that number as large, then the PBK theory becomes more illogical, as in they are moving far beyond their number 4.5 lakhs.
----But, since PBKs believe it is the inspiriting party who give zeal and enthusiasm to the planning party, then in PBK view- that number should be at least 2.25 lakh - (Am I right?)
----But, number of children to the 4.5 lakh would be another 4.5 lakh.
So- PBKs may have to give that number as 4.5 lakh, and say- there are two sets of inspiriting party too. Do they say so?
----So- in their view- 2.25 lakh BKs or 4.5 lakh BKs should leave their corporeal body before too late board and ride (and perhaps control???) the planning party and practical party?*
7) Further- regarding one becoming complete from the colour of company-
----In PBK view- the practical party would have much lesser company of the planning party when compared to that of the inspiriting party.
They believe the inspiriting party is almost always combined/resides in the body of the planning party! So- it is like the INSPIRITING PARTY has company of the planning party to the maximum possible extent.
Mr. Dixit himself says- the two groups- planning party and the inspiriting party have come together! But- then it should be the inspiriting party that should get color of the company of the Planing party, and should obviously be ahead of the third/practical party- is it not?
* 8) Further- on WHAT BASIS do PBKs claim- the BK souls who leave their body, will not get corporeal birth, but only PBKs will get? [or, do they say otherwise? ]
As per my knowledge, PBKs say- B Baba or Mama is/are highly pure (in dharna) and hence cannot get birth through ordinary human beings, so will have to wait till Mr Dixit and sister Vedanti become pure and will get birth through them.
But- we can once again see- the PBK theory is just mutual contradictions.