It is said that the role of Brahma is fixed till the end. So, is it now the role of Brahma going on, or the role of Shankar? Or maybe they switch from time to time. Please, elaborate!
sita wrote:In the Murli it is said that Shankar is the biggest. What does it mean? I would suppose it means he takes birth first. How does this tally with your interpretation that Shankar is the role that Brahma Baba (and Mama) play after they become subtle? Because if Shankar is bigger it means he must be there before Brahma, the role of Shankar should be there before the role of Brahma. Please, elaborate!
'Shankar' is the BIGGEST and NEXT to GOD means, the ROLE of God, as 'Shankar', (PRIMARILY - DIRECTLY through the SUBTLE body of DLR; and SECONDARILY - INDIRECTLY through the corporeal body of -Virendra Dev Dixit), is the BIGGEST and NEXT to GOD, since through this ROLE of God, (which is considered to be the HIGHEST among the THREE ROLES of God, viz., B, V & S), Maya or 'NESCIENCE' is DESTROYED COMPLETELY from the HUMAN PSYCHE, so that 'Brahma' & 'Vishnu' may SURVIVE! The RELATIVE Spiritual STATUS of the THREE souls involved in the COMPLEX ROLE of God, as 'Shankar', can be DETERMINED from the word 'Shankar' ITSELF!
The relevant power of souls is in the word Shankara – Shiv, Krishna and Ram, in that SPECIFIC correct ORDER ! Shiv is most powerful but incorporeal, Krishna is the next most powerful, and then comes Ram. Viewed from the reverse angle, it becomes RAKASHASH or Ravan, where the soul of R (Ra) is considered as the most powerful, soul of K (Ka) is considered as less powerful, and Soul of Shiv (Sh) is not considered, since He does not take a physical body in the Drama, with the other (Sha) in between, representing the conch of reversed Advance Knowledge.
V D D, who is the ‘mukrar rath’ of Ravan, Satan or Shaitan, is made to masquerade as the (FALSE) Shankar of the Principal Adulterated Trimurti of Ravan Rajya, as under –
SHAITAN, KANS, RAVAN = SHANKARA ! ! !
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It has ALREADY been clarified that B, V & S take birth, or incarnate SIMULTANEOUSLY, TOGETHER with Shiva or God.
The THREE roles of God, as B, V & S commence SIMULTANEOUSLY, AS SOON AS
God INCARNATES in the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR. The THREE DIFFERENT PROCESSES of (1) G
eneration - giving Spiritual re-birth to embodied souls, (2) O
peration - sustaining those NEWLY re-born Children, and (3) D
estruction - destroying the DARKNESS of IGNORANCE, or 'NESCIENCE' from these Children, have ESSENTIALLY to be SIMULTANEOUS
, and therefore CANNOT be EXCLUSIVELY SEGREGATED in terms of EXACT TIME PERIODS!
When a new child is born, obviously the child has to be sustained from THAT VERY MOMENT onward, otherwise how can the child SURVIVE? Similarly, if any life-threatening disease afflicts the child, that has to be CURED THEN and THERE, otherwise how can the child SURVIVE?
Therefore, the THREE ACTS of God COMMENCE SIMULTANEOUSLY RIGHT from the VERY BEGINNING ITSELF!
Only as a matter of general understanding, it is considered that God SPECIFICALLY plays - the role of 'Brahma', through the IMPURE corporeal body of Brahma Baba, until 1969, as 'Karanhar'
- when the ACT of CREATION is MORE PRONOUNCED; and the role of 'Shankar', through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, till the end of Confluence Age, as 'KaranKaravanhar'
- when the ACT of DESTRUCTION is MORE PRONOUNCED; and the role of 'Vishnu', through the PURE corporeal body of the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, in the beginning of G A, as 'Karavanhar'
- when the ACT of SUSTENANCE is MORE PRONOUNCED.
sita wrote:If Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar must be there and take birth together at the same time when the Supreme Soul comes, Vishnu is a complete form. How can Vishnu a complete form be there? So it must be about a revelation like birth that has not happened yet and happens only at the end when there could be the complete form of Vishnu. But still from the beginning of the Yagya the three personalities are there.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. The revelation-like or Spiritual birth of 'Vishnu' takes place in the very beginning of the Yagya, AS SOON AS
Shiva or God enters the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, who REAL-EYEses his role as 'Vishnu', BOTH, through Visions, AS WELL AS
through the SUBTLE PERCEPTION of the ACTUAL ENTRY
of Shiva or God into his corporeal body, when the ROLE of God, as 'Vishnu', COMMENCES; (although the embodied soul of Brahma Baba, through whom God enacts the ROLE, as 'Vishnu', is STILL IMPURE at that time); and the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba THEN
becomes instrumental to enact the role of PRACTICAL 'Vishnu', ONLY at the very end of Confluence Age, or in the very beginning of G A, when both his body and soul are PURE! The DIFFICULTY in PERCEIVING ACCURATELY arises, due to considering the embodied soul as the DOER or the ONE who GETS DONE, rather than God HIMSELF - who, IN FACT
, is the ACTUAL DOER or the ONE who GETS DONE! The DELUSIVE body-conscious concepts ALLOW Ravan or Maya to KICK-IN with 'DUALITY'
- ALL, as per Drama Plan!
The roles ENACTED by God, as Brahma & Shankar (AS WELL AS Vishnu) have to be ESSENTIALLY SIMULTANEOUS, during Confluence Age!