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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 01.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
‘बाबा’ कहने से, एक सेकेण्ड में वर्से के अधिकारी बन जाते हैं। बच्चा पैदा हुआ, कहेंगे वारिस पैदा हुआ। फिर सगीर से बालिग होता है। यहाँ भी ऐसे है। बाबा को जाना, पहचाना, और वर्से का मालिक बनें। यहाँ तो तुम बड़े हो ही। आत्मा को बाप का परिचय मिला, सेकेण्ड में बाप का वर्सा मिला। बच्चा पैदा होने से ही, समझेंगे बाप की जायदाद का वर्सा पायेंगे। यह है बेहद का बाप। कहते हैं, ‘हे बच्चे’; आत्मा ने जाना बाप आया हुआ है। तुम बच्चे जानते हो, हम बाप से कल्प-कल्प राजधानी लेते हैं - जैसे तुम सेकेण्ड में विश्व के मालिक बन जाते हो।
“By saying ‘Baba’, You become one who has a right to the inheritance, IN A SECOND. AS SOON AS a son is born, he is said to be the heir, then he grows from an infant to an adult. The same applies here. AS SOON AS You Re-Cognize Baba, and You know Baba, You become a Master of the inheritance. Here, You are already mature. AS SOON AS a soul receives the Father's introduction, he receives the Father's inheritance IN A SECOND. AS SOON AS a son is born, they understand that he will claim his inheritance of his Father's property. This is the Unlimited Father. He says: ‘O children’; You souls understand that the Father has come. You Children understand that You claim the Sovereignty from the Father, Cycle after Cycle - it is AS THOUGH You become the Masters of the World, IN A SECOND.

AS SOON AS, the Righteous Children Re-Cognize & REAL-EYEs, the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, to be, BOTH, their ‘Parlokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – who is the REAL Adi Dev - they claim their Sovereignty of RamRajya from their Father & their Grand-Father, Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba - in Confluence Age ITSELF, (Cycle after Cycle) – within their INNERMOST AWARENESS or consciousness – which is, AS THOUGH, they become the Masters of the World, IN A SECOND – in Confluence Age, ITSELF!

Hence, this Version gives the CORRECT & the MOST ACCURATE CLARIFICATION of becoming ‘Nar’ to ‘Narayan’ & ‘Nari’ to ‘Lakhsmi’, WITHIN ONE SECOND!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing, that same implies that he, himself, changes from ‘Nar’ to Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, and that, BOTH, his soul, AS WELL AS, his impure corporeal body become like pure gold (‘kanchan kaya’), at the VERY END of Confluence Age, ITSELF, WITHIN a SECOND, due to which he is known as Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, who is instrumental to give corporeal birth to the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna of Golden Age, or Golden Age Narayan, due to which he is the corporeal ‘creator’ & Shri Krishna is the corporeal ‘creation’, and hence he is Spiritually MORE ELEVATED than the soul of Brahma Baba, or Shri Krishna of Golden Age – who takes birth TOGETHER with Shri Radha, as TWINS, to the SAME set of corporeal parents (according to him)!
This MALICIOUS & TREACHEROUS MISAPPROPRIATION of the above Pure UNADULTERATED Version of God, is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the other Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, wherein REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has CLEARLY & UNAMBIGUOUSLY DECLARED, that the soul of the corporeal father (of Shri Krishna of Golden Age) has a LOWER Spiritual status than the soul of Brahma Baba, or Shri Krishna of Golden Age; and that the corporeal body of the soul of the corporeal father (of Shri Krishna of Golden Age) is STILL IMPURE, when Brahma Baba takes the VERY FIRST Pure birth, in the VERY FIRST Pure corporeal body, as the VERY FIRST Prince Shri Krishna of Golden Age, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – while the VERY FIRST Princess of Golden Age, Shri Radha, takes birth, only 2 to 3 years AFTER Shri Krishna takes birth, to DIFFERENT set of corporeal parents!

In this manner, the Defamer Of God, who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, CONTINUES to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


ऐसे कोई भी नहीं कहेंगे कि परमपिता परमात्मा की आत्मा मेरे द्वारा तुमको राजयोग सिखलाती है। किसको पता ही नहीं है; न मालूम होने कारण, कृष्ण भगवान का नाम लिख दिया है। उसने राजयोग सिखलाया, वा पतित-पावन, उसको कह नहीं सकते। वह तो है स्वर्ग का पहला बच्चा। जो पहले में है वह पिछाड़ी में भी होगा, इसलिए उनको श्याम-सुन्दर कहते हैं। पहले नम्बर में है कृष्ण, फिर 84 जन्मों के बाद उनका नाम ब्रह्मा एडाप्ट होता है। बाप आकर बच्चों को एडाप्ट करते हैं। तुम हो एडाप्टेड बच्चे, ईश्वर के बच्चे। तुम्हारी माँ भी है, बाप भी है, प्रजापिता भी है। फिर बाप कहते हैं, इनके मुख से कहता हूँ - तुम मेरे बच्चे हो।
“No one else can say that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul TEACHES you RajYog through me. No one knows this AT ALL, and because they DO NOT know, they have written the name of Krishna as God. It cannot be said that he taught RajYog or that he is the Purifier. He is the FIRST Child of Heaven. The one who is FIRST, will also be there LAST, which is why he is known as ‘Shyam-Sundar’ (the ugly and the beautiful one). Krishna is NUMBER ONE, and THEN, AFTER 84 births, he adopts the name Brahma. The Father comes and adopts the Children. You Children are adopted; You are Children of God. You have the Mother ALSO, the Father ALSO, and PrajaPita ALSO. Then the Father says:
I tell You through THIS one's Mouth that You are My Children.”

ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the ONE & ONLY REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL, APPOINTED , FIXED ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, has the authority to say that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, TEACHES the Righteous Children RajYog, through him. NO OTHER embodied soul has been given this authority by God, within this EWD Play!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, DO NOT know, or understand, this AT ALL, because of which they are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by the Defamer Of God into DELUSIVELY believing, that ONLY Brahma Baba, (who is the SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age), delivers the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, in the AVs, spoken through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar – which represents the EXACT ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the DELUSIVE belief of the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – where they DELUSIVE believe that Shri Krishna is the God of the Gita!
The VERY FIRST Prince of Golden Age, Shri Krishna, is the VERY FIRST Child of REAL Heaven, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, who is NUMBER ONE, among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, and who takes the FULL 84 births, and who is THEN, ONCE AGAIN, adopted by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, as REAL PrajaPita Brahma, in his VERY LAST birth, as DLR – which is why he is known as ‘Shyam-Sundar’.
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God comes and adopts the soul of DLR FIRST of ALL, through the Lotus Mouth of his VERY OWN impure corporeal body - as, BOTH, His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child, AFTER which he becomes REAL PrajaPita Brahma, AS WELL AS, REAL JagadAmba, through whom Shiva adopts ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, INCLUDING Brahma Baba’s Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama - who then continue to address him as Brahma Baba, EVEN AFTER he leaves his corporeal body, in 1969, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age. Since Brahma Baba is in a male corporeal body, the EVIDENT function of JagadAmba is then delegated to his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana, Saraswati Mama.
Therefore, the Righteous Children TRULY belong to the REAL Godly Family, who have the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT, Shiva – Mother, AS WELL AS, Father – with them, on an INCORPOREAL level; and who have the ‘Alokik’ Parent, Brahma Baba - Mother, AS WELL AS, Father – with them, on a SUBTLE level; and who have the ‘Alokik’ Parents, Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba - Mother AS WELL AS Father – with them, on a CORPOREAL level, UNTIL 1965/69.


गाया भी जाता है ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्थापना। यह है त्रिमूर्ति।
“It is also praised that establishment takes place through Brahma. THIS is the Trimurti.”

Thus, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God carries out His THREE PRINCIPAL functions of Establishment (Generation), Sustenance (Operation) & Transformation (Destruction), PRINCIPALLY THROUGH the TWO MAIN embodied souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba – FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through their impure corporeal bodies, UNTIL 1965/69, as ‘Karanhar’, or as Brahma; THEN, in ‘Akar’, through their subtle angelic bodies, UNTIL the END of Confluence Age, as ‘KaranKaravanhar’, or as Shankar; and FINALLY, in ‘Sakar’, through their PURE corporeal bodies, in the BEGINNING of Golden Age, as ‘Karavanhar’, or as Vishnu.
Therefore, the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle comprises of the Highest-on-High INCORPOREAL Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, and the HIGHEST corporeal embodied souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama.


आत्मा तो अविनाशी है। एक तो योग अग्नि से पवित्र बन जायेंगे, बाकी सब सजायें खाकर, हिसाब-किताब चुक्तू कर, फिर जायेंगे। यह ईश्वर की भठ्ठी है - सबको पावन बनाने लिए। यह है ज्ञान का सागर, उनसे तुम ज्ञान गंगायें निकली हो। फिर मनुष्यों ने उस पानी की गंगा को समझ लिया है। वहाँ देवता की मूर्ति भी रखी हुई है। वास्तव में तुम हो भगवान के बच्चे, ज्ञान गंगायें, जो फिर देवता बनते हो। जब स्वर्ग में आयेंगे तब तुमको देवता कहेंगे।
“Souls are imperishable. On the one hand, You will become pure through the Fire of Yoga, and on the other hand, everyone else will experience punishment, and settle their karmic accounts, and then return (Home). This is the furnace (‘bhatti’) of God, for making everyone pure. This One is the Ocean of Knowledge, and You, the Ganges of Knowledge, have emerged from Him. Then, people have thought that it is THAT Ganges of water. They even keep images of Deities there. In fact, You are the Children of God - the Ganges of Knowledge, who will THEN become Deities. When You come to Heaven, You will be called Deities.”

The Righteous Children, who are the REAL Children of God, and the TRUE Ganges of UNADULTERATED Knowledge, become pure through the Fire of ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Ocean of UNADULTERATED Knowledge - by Remembering Him, the way He ACTUALLY is – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, who are the STEP Children of God, and the FALSE Ganges of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, settle their karmic accounts, and become pure through the experience of SEVERE punishment, through HARSH EXTERNAL processes, incorporated within this EWD Play, through INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR bodily guru, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Rama’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाहुबल वाले विश्व के मालिक बन न सकें। हाँ, उन्हों में इतनी ताकत है, अगर क्रिश्चियन दो भाई आपस में मिल जाएं तो विश्व के मालिक बन सकते हैं। परन्तु लॉ नहीं है। कहानी भी है, दो बिल्ले आपस में लड़े और माखन बन्दर खा गया। तो वह दो लड़ते हैं, बीच में माखन भारत को मिल जाता है, इसमें भी नम्बरवन है श्रीकृष्ण, इसलिए कृष्ण के मुख में गोला दिखाते हैं। वह मक्खन नहीं, यह स्वर्ग का राज्य भाग्य श्रीकृष्ण को मिला। ... तुम कृष्ण के मन्दिर में जायेंगे तो समझेंगे यह सतयुग का पहला प्रिन्स था। अभी अन्तिम 84 वें जन्म में ब्रह्मा हुआ है। यह भी बहुत समझने की बातें हैं।
“Those with physical power CANNOT become the Masters of the World. Yes, they have so much power, that if the TWO Christian Brothers (America & Russia) were to come together, they could become the Masters of the World. However, this is NOT the Law. There is also the story, that two cats fought among themselves, and the monkey ate the butter. So, those two fight, and Bharat receives the butter in their midst. In this too, Shri Krishna is NUMBER ONE, which is why a Globe is shown in the mouth of Krishna. It is not THAT butter; Shri Krishna received his fortune of Sovereignty of Heaven. ... When You go to a temple of Krishna, You will understand that he was the FIRST Prince of the Golden Age. Now, in his last and 84th birth, he has become Brahma. These are also great aspects to be understood.”

The VERY FIRST Prince of Golden Age, Shri Krishna, is NUMBER ONE, among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play, which is why a Globe is shown in the mouth of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, as a symbol of having received the HIGHEST fortune of the HIGHEST PRACTICAL Sovereignty, in Golden Age - by virtue of having received the HIGHEST fortune of the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL Sovereignty, in Confluence Age, as Brahma Baba – ALONG with his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, who becomes the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign, in Confluence Age - TOGETHER with Brahma Baba.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 02 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 02.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सत बाबा एक ही है, जिसके संग से तुम विश्व के मालिक बनते हो। भक्ति में पहले-पहले एक ही शिवबाबा की सच्ची-सच्ची भक्ति होती है। उसको ही सच्ची अव्यभिचारी भक्ति कहा जाता है। बाबा बैठ तुम बच्चों को सारे चक्र का ज्ञान सुनाते हैं।
“There is ONLY ONE TRUE Baba, through whose Company You become the Masters of the World. At the very beginning of Devotion, there is TRUE worship of ONLY ONE ShivBaba, and ONLY THAT is known as TRUE, UNADULTERATED Devotion. Baba sits and explains the Knowledge of the whole Cycle to You Children.”

In the very beginning of the ‘Path of Devotion’, or Ravan Rajya, commencing from the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age, there is TRUE worship of ONLY ONE ShivBaba, and ONLY THAT is known as TRUE, UNADULTERATED Devotion, or ‘Satopradhan Bhakti’.
As the time passes, Devotion ALSO becomes ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, DISTORTED & PERVERTED, or FALSE; and CHANGES from being ‘Satopradhan’, to ‘Sato’, to ‘Rajo’, to ‘Rajopradhan’, to ‘Tamo’, and FINALLY becomes ‘Tamopradhan’, by the VERY END of Iron Age.

The Righteous Children become the Masters of the World of RamRajya, through the ELEVATED Company of ONLY ONE TRUE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – in Confluence Age, ITSELF – THROUGH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children become the masters of the World of Ravan Rajya, through the DEGRADED company of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Rama’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishvar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – in Confluence Age, ITSELF – THROUGH the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!!


पहले-पहले एक शिवबाबा की भक्ति थी, जिसको अव्यभिचारी भक्ति कहते थे, फिर अभी ज्ञान भी तुमको सच्चा सुनाते हैं। झूठी भक्ति से छुड़ाते हैं। सच्चे बाबा द्वारा तुम ज्ञान सुन रहे हो। तुम जानते हो यह सत का संग हमको स्वर्ग में ले जायेगा। सच्चे ज्ञान से ही बेड़ा पार होता है, और जो झूठा ज्ञान सुनाते हैं उससे बेड़ा गर्क होता है। उसको अज्ञान कहा जाता है। सच्चा ज्ञान सिर्फ बाप ही सुनाते हैं।
“To begin with, there was UNADULTERATED Devotion of ONE ShivBaba, and NOW He speaks TRUE Knowledge to You; He liberates You from FALSE Devotion. You are hearing Knowledge from the TRUE Father. You understand that THIS Company of Truth will take You to Heaven. ONLY through TRUE Knowledge do your Ferry-Boats go across; and with FALSE knowledge, spoken by others, your Ferry-Boats FOUNDER. That is called IGNORANCE. ONLY the Father speaks TRUE Knowledge.”

TRUE, UNADULTERATED Devotion, or ‘Satopradhan Bhakti’, takes place in the BEGINNING of Ravan Rajya - the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of which takes place THROUGH the TRUE, UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by ONLY ONE TRUE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - more specifically, in the earlier part of Confluence Age – through which the Spiritual Ferry-Boats of the Righteous Children go ACROSS - to enable them to EXPERIENCE their PRACTICAL Sovereignty, in RamRajya!

Whereas, FALSE, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED Devotion, or ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, takes place in the MIDDLE & END of Ravan Rajya - the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of which takes place THROUGH the FALSE, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - through which the Spiritual Ferry-Boats of the BLIND Unrighteous children FOUNDER - to enable them to EXPERIENCE their PRACTICAL sovereignty, in Ravan Rajya!


यह बाबा भी कहते हैं कि हम उस बाबा के सम्मुख बैठे हैं। उनको याद करता हूँ। घड़ी-घड़ी याद करता हूँ। बाबा का बच्चा हूँ ना? तुमको तो इस साकार को छोड़, उनको याद करना है। हमारे लिए तो एक ही बाबा है। तुम्हारे लिए थोड़ी अटक पड़ती है, मुझे क्यों अटक पड़ेगी? तुम्हारी नजर इस पर जाती है, मेरी नजर किस पर जायेगी? मेरा तो डायरेक्ट शिवबाबा से कनेक्शन हो गया। तुमको शिवबाबा को याद करना पड़ता है। इस साकार को क्रास करना पड़ता है कि यह याद न पड़े, मेरे लिए तो एक शिवबाबा ही है। तुम्हारे सामने दो बैठे हैं। हमारे सामने तो सिर्फ एक ही है। मैं उनका बच्चा हूँ। फिर भी निरन्तर याद नहीं कर सकता हूँ क्योंकि बाबा कहते हैं - तुम कर्मयोगी हो।
“ THIS (Brahma) Baba also says: I am sitting in front of THAT (Shiv)Baba. I Remember Him; I Remember Him again and again. I am Baba's child, am I not? You have to forget THIS corporeal (Father) and Remember THAT One. For me, there is ONLY ONE (Shiv)Baba. There may be a little hindrance for You, but why should there be any hindrance for me? Your vision is drawn to THIS one, to whom would my vision be drawn? My connection becomes DIRECT with ShivBaba. You have (to make effort) to Remember ShivBaba. You have to cross THIS corporeal one, so that You DO NOT remember him. For me, there is ONLY ONE ShivBaba. There are TWO sitting in front of You, there is ONLY ONE in front of me. I am His Child; then too, I am not able to stay in CONSTANT Remembrance, because (Shiv)Baba says that You are a ‘karma Yogi’. ”

For the soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or DLR, who is REAL Adi Dev, there is ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, in FRONT of him, and his Vision is NATURALLY drawn ONLY towards Him, since his Spiritual CONNECTION with Him becomes DIRECT – WITHOUT ANY INTERVENING corporeal or subtle body of ANY OTHER embodied soul, IN BETWEEN!
ALTHOUGH the Righteous Children have a little hindrance – in the form of the INTERVENING corporeal or subtle body of Brahma Baba, IN BETWEEN – YET they must FORGET their corporeal ‘Alokik’ Father, who may come into their corporeal or subtle Vision, and CROSS this little hindrance, by making CONCERTED efforts to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and Remember Him, the way He ACTUALLY is – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves also as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – to be able to CLEARLY SEE, ONLY REAL ShivBaba, with their THIRD Divine EYE of the intellect, through which their sins of innumerable births can get incinerated VIGOROUSLY (‘jvalamukhi Yoga’), and they can THEN become pure QUICKLY, and claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from REAL ShivBaba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF!


लक्ष्मी-नारायण का चित्र बहुत अच्छा है। इसमें सारा सेट है। त्रिमूर्ति, लक्ष्मी-नारायण, राधे कृष्ण भी हैं, यह चित्र भी अगर कोई रोज देखता रहे, तो याद रहे कि शिवबाबा हमको ब्रह्मा द्वारा यह बना रहे हैं।
“The picture of Lakshmi & Narayan is very good. There is a whole set: the Trimurti, Lakshmi & Narayan, and also Radhe & Krishna. If You were to look at these pictures every day, You would remember that ShivBaba is making You THAT, THROUGH Brahma.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, makes the Righteous Children LIKE REAL Lakshmi & Narayan, and enables them to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya – in Confluence Age, ITSELF – THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, into DELUSIVELY believing that they are going to become LIKE their bodily guru, MASQUERADING as Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and enables them to claim their inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya – in Confluence Age, ITSELF – THROUGH the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through his BOGUS mouth - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


घर में भी छोटे-छोटे बोर्ड बनाकर लिख दो। बेहद के बाप को जानने से तुम 21 जन्मों के लिए स्वराज्य पद पा सकते हो। धीरे-धीरे बहुत मनुष्य बोर्ड देखकर तुम्हारे पास आयेंगे। तुम रूहानी अविनाशी सर्जन हो। रूहानी सर्जरी का कोर्स पास कर रहे हो, बोर्ड लगाना पड़ेगा। बोलो, इस बाप को याद करने से तुमको बेहद की बादशाही मिलेगी।
“EVEN at your home, make a small board and write: ‘By knowing the Unlimited Father you can claim the status of Self-Sovereignty for 21 births’. Gradually, many people will read the board and come to You. You are imperishable, Spiritual Surgeons. You are passing the Course of Spiritual Surgery, so You need to put up a board. Tell them: By remembering this Father you will receive Unlimited Sovereignty.”

The CONCERNED Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, pass the Spiritual Course of Supreme Spiritual Surgery, through the INTENSIVE STUDY of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is REAL Adi Dev, and become Supreme Spiritual Surgeons, to enable others also to receive their Unlimited Self-Sovereignty, in Confluence Age ITSELF - to be THEN able to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty in the New World of RamRajya, from REAL ShivBaba, THROUGH Brahma Baba - in Confluence Age, ITSELF!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
ज्ञान के बारे में, देवताओं के बारे में, वा परमात्मा के बारे में, जो कुछ भी गाते हैं, वह उल्टा ही गाते हैं। इसको कहा ही जाता है, उल्टी दुनिया। अल्लाह बैठ समझाते हैं, तुम तो माया की फाँसी पर लटके हुए थे। माया ने सब बच्चों को उल्लू बना दिया है। उनको उल्टा लटका दिया है। बाप आकर बच्चों को सुल्टा बनाते हैं।
“Whatever they Sing, about Knowledge, about Deities, or about Supreme Soul (God), is ALL REVERSE (INVERTED). This is called an INVERTED World. Allah (God) sits and explains that you were dangling from the gallows of Maya. Maya has made all the children like IDIOTS (‘ullu’ – ‘Night-Bird’); she has made everyone dangle upside down. The Father comes and makes the Children upright.”

WHATEVER the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya sing, or praise, or believe – (under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of their BLIND bodily gurus) - about the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which represents the TRUE Gita; about the REAL Deities of RamRajya; or about the REAL Incorporeal Supreme Soul, or God – is ALL REVERSE or INVERTED or FALSE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects – and their FALSE CONCEPTS & BELIEFS are THEN incorporated in the FALSE Gita & the FALSE Scriptures of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’!
The EXACT ‘shooting’ of same takes place in Confluence Age!
WHATEVER the BLIND Unrighteous children, in Confluence Age, state, or describe, or think, or believe – (having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED by their BLIND bodily guru, who is under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya) - about the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which represents the TRUE Gita; about the REAL Deities of RamRajya; or about the REAL Incorporeal Supreme Soul, Shiva, or God – is ALL REVERSE or INVERTED or FALSE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects – and their FALSE CONCEPTS & BELIEFS are THEN represented by the FALSE Gita & the FALSE Scriptures of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – being the ‘shooting’ of same, in Confluence Age!
The BLIND Unrighteous children are instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of the INVERTED World of Ravan, in order to establish Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF! The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, has made them dangle UPSIDE DOWN, and made them DANGLE from the ‘Gallows of Maya’ - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - and made them into THOROUGH Spiritual IDIOTS (‘MAHA-MURKH’), ALONG WITH their Spiritually IGNORANT & ARROGANT BLIND bodily guru, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Alif’, ‘Allah’, ‘Rama’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., etc., etc.!


माया ऐसी है, जो कितना भी समझाओ तो भी समझते नहीं हैं।
“Maya is such that, no matter how much You explain, THEN too, they DO NOT understand.”

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, ACTING through the ‘MAHA-MURKH’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – is such that, NO MATTER HOW MUCH the Righteous Children explain, THEN too, the BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to understand, or comprehend, ANYTHING, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects!


तुम जानते हो, हम स्वदर्शन चक्र फिराते रहते हैं, इससे हमारे विकर्म विनाश होते जायेंगे, और दूसरे तरफ अविनाशी पद का खाता जमा होता जायेगा। फिर भी कहते हैं कि हम स्वदर्शन चक्र घुमाना भूल जाते हैं। बाप कहते हैं तुमको लाइट हाउस बनना है, लाइट हाउस रास्ता दिखाते हैं ना। तुम्हारी एक आंख में शान्तिधाम और एक आंख में सुखधाम है। दु:खधाम में तो बैठे हो।
“You understand that when You spin the discus of Self-Realization, (on the one hand), your sins will continue to get absolved, and, on the other hand, the account of your imperishable status will continue to accumulate. Even then, some say: We forget to spin the discus of Self-Realization. The Father says: You have to become Light-Houses. A lighthouse shows the way (for others). In your one eye there is the ‘Land of Peace’ (‘Shantidham’), and in the other eye there is the ‘Land of Happiness’ (‘Sukhdham’). You are sitting in the ‘Land of Sorrow’ (‘Dukhdham’).”

The Righteous Children have to become TRUE, POWERFUL, Spiritual Light-Houses, and show the CORRECT way to the ‘Land of Peace’ (‘Shantidham’) & the ‘Land of Happiness’ (‘Sukhdham’), while sitting in the ‘Land of Sorrow’ (‘Dukhdham’) – to ALL OTHER embodied souls on THIS corporeal sphere.


तुम लाइट हाउस हो ना। तुम्हारा मन्त्र ही है मनमनाभव, मध्याजी भव, शान्तिधाम और सुखधाम। औरों को भी रास्ता बताते हो। यह चक्र फिराते रहते हो। चलते-फिरते यही बुद्धि में रहे - शान्तिधाम और सुखधाम। ऐसी अवस्था में बैठे-बैठे किसको साक्षात्कार हो सकता है। कोई सामने आते ही साक्षात्कार कर सकते हैं। हमारा काम ही है यहाँ। वहाँ तो कुछ है नहीं। तो तुम बच्चों को अब यह प्रैक्टिस करनी है, हम रास्ता बताने वाले लाइट हाउस हैं, और अभी खड़े हैं दु:खधाम में।
“ You are Light-Houses. Your mantra is ‘Manmanabhav’ & ‘Madhyajibhav’ - the ‘Land of Peace’ & the ‘Land of Happiness’. You also show the path to others. You continue to spin this Cycle. While moving around, ONLY let the ‘Land of Peace’ & the ‘Land of Happiness’ remain in your intellects. When You remain in such a stage, it is possible for others to have a Vision. As soon as anyone comes in front (of You), they can have a Vision. Our work is only here; there is nothing there. Therefore, You Children should NOW practice this, that we are the Light-Houses who show the path (to others), and are NOW in the ‘Land of Sorrow’. ”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are POWERFUL, Spiritual Light-Houses, whose ONLY mantra is ‘Manmanabhav’ & ‘Madhyajibhav’ - the ‘Land of Peace’ & the ‘Land of Happiness’, and who show the CORRECT path to the ‘Land of Peace’ (‘Shantidham’) & the ‘Land of Happiness’ (‘Sukhdham’), while sitting in the ‘Land of Sorrow’ (‘Dukhdham’) – to ALL OTHER embodied souls on THIS corporeal sphere; – and by CONTINUING to spin the discuss of Self-Realization, and be Spiritual Light-Houses, the Righteous Children are able to give a Vision to ANYONE who comes in FRONT of them!


लाइट हाउस वा स्वदर्शन चक्र बात तो एक ही है। परन्तु इसमें (चक्र में) डिटेल आता है। उसमें सिर्फ दो बातें हैं, सुखधाम और शान्तिधाम। अल्फ - मुक्तिधाम। बे - जीवनमुक्तिधाम। कितना सहज है। ... बाप कहते हैं मुझे याद करो और सुखधाम-शान्तिधाम को याद करो, तो बेड़ा पार हो जायेगा। पहले तो जरूर घर जाना है। ... नई दुनिया को याद करो। इस पुरानी दुनिया से नाता तोड़ो।
“To be a Light-House and to spin the discus of Self-Realization are both SAME aspects. However, there are details in this (in spinning this discus of Self-Realization). In that, there are only two aspects: the ‘Land of Happiness’ & the ‘Land of Peace’. Alpha (‘Alif’) is the ‘Land of Liberation’ & Beta (‘Bey’) is the ‘Land of Liberation-in-Life’. It is very easy. ... The Father says: Remember Me, and remember the ‘Land of Peace’ & the ‘Land of Happiness’, and your Ferry-Boat will go across. First, You definitely have to go Home. ... Remember the New World. Break your connections with this old World.”

To be a Light-House and to spin the discus of Self-Realization are both SAME aspects.

By having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, by Remembering Him the way He ACTUALLY is – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – in the ‘Land of Peace’, or the ‘Land of Liberation’ - Alpha (‘Alif’) - by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - and also remembering the ‘Land of Happiness’, or the ‘Land of Liberation-in-Life’ - Beta (‘Bey’) – the Ferry-Boat of ALL embodied souls will go ACROSS to their DESIRED DESTINED DESTINATION, NUMBER-WISE!


बाप कहते हैं, मेरे भक्तों को ज्ञान दो। तुम भी भगत थे ना। अब श्रीकृष्णपुरी का मालिक बनते हो। कृष्णपुरी, वैकुण्ठ को याद करेंगे; वैकुण्ठ, रामराज्य को नहीं कहेंगे। लक्ष्मी-नारायण के राज्य को ही वैकुण्ठ कहेंगे। ...
विष्णु को 4 भुजा दिखाते हैं, अर्थात् लक्ष्मी-नारायण का कम्बाइन्ड रूप है।
“The Father says: Give Knowledge to my Devotees. You also were Devotees. Now You are becoming the Masters of the ‘Land of Shri Krishna’. Remember the ‘Land of Krishna’, Paradise. The kingdom of Rama is not called Paradise. ONLY the kingdom of Lakshmi & Narayan can be called Paradise. ...
They show Vishnu with four arms; that is the COMBINED form of Lakshmi & Narayan.”

The Kingdom of Rama (DURING Silver Age) is not called Paradise. It can only be called as SEMI-Paradise, or SEMI-Heaven. ONLY the Kingdom of Lakshmi & Narayan (DURING Golden Age) can be called REAL Paradise.
The form of Vishnu, shown with four arms, represents the COMBINED form of ONE SINGLE PAIR of PURE embodied souls of Lakshmi & Narayan in PURE corporeal bodies, DURING Golden Age. There are EIGHT such PAIRS of PURE embodied souls of Lakshmi & Narayan in PURE corporeal bodies, DURING the ENTIRE Golden Age. Although the form of Vishnu, represents EACH such PAIR of Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age, in GENERALin PARTICULAR, the form of Vishnu, represents the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan, of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, who are the VERY SAME souls of Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe & Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who achieve that HIGHEST Spiritual status among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns, in Confluence Age.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 04 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह जो बेहद की लीला रूपी नाटक है, उनकी लीला के आदि मध्य अन्त को तुम बच्चे जानते हो। वो लोग समझते हैं कि ईश्वर की माया अपरमअपार है। अब तुम्हारी बुद्धि में जागृति आई है, और तुम सारी बेहद की लीला को जान चुके हो
“You Children know the beginning, the middle and the end of this unlimited Drama, in the form of a Play. Those people think that God's Maya is limitless. Your intellects have now been awakened and You know the WHOLE unlimited Play.”

The CONCERNED Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins - whose THIRD Divine EYE of the intellect has been opened, by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, by TEACHING them RajYog, THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is REAL Adi Dev - NOW understand the beginning, the middle and the end of this WHOLE unlimited Eternal World Drama Play, INCLUDING the CLANDESTINE role of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishvar’, ‘Alif’, ‘Allah’, ‘Hussein’, ‘Rama’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
Hence it is NOT POSSIBLE for the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, to FOOL them in ANY way, through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – as in the case of the BLIND Unrighteous children!


मूलवतन, सूक्ष्मवतन, स्थूलवतन के आदि मध्य अन्त को जानना है। ब्रह्मा और विष्णु का पार्ट यहाँ चलता है। विष्णु का रूप है एम-आब्जेक्ट। यह पद पाना है। गाते भी हैं ब्रह्मा देवता नम: .., फिर कहते हैं शिव परमात्माए नम:, उनको निराकार ही कहते हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा कहते हैं, तो बाप हुआ ना? सिर्फ परमात्मा कह देने से पिता अक्षर नहीं आता। ... तो यह भी समझने की बातें हैं। कोई भी बात में प्रश्न-उत्तर करने की दरकार नहीं रहती।
“You have to know the Incorporeal World, the Subtle Region and the beginning, the middle and the end of the corporeal World. The parts of Brahma and Vishnu are performed here. The form of Vishnu is your aim and objective. You have to claim that status. They sing: Salutations to the Deity Brahma .., then they say: Salutations to the Supreme Soul Shiva. They refer to Him only as the Incorporeal One. Since they call Him Supreme Father Supreme Soul, He is the Father, is it not? By simply calling Him the Supreme Soul, the word ‘Father’ is not clear. ... So, these are also aspects which have to be understood. There is no need to have questions & answers about any aspect.

The parts of Brahma and Vishnu are performed here, in practical, on this corporeal sphere - since the HIGHEST embodied souls, within this EWD Play, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR & Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, enact these roles in PRACTICAL, in Confluence Age, and in the beginning of Golden Age.
Shankar is a Subtle Deity of Subtle Region, whose role is ONLY SYMBOLIC, and hence he DOES NOT enact ANY corporeal role on this corporeal sphere, through ANY corporeal body, like Shiva does.

The term, ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’, pertains ONLY to ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, ALONE – and the terms, ‘Supreme Father’ or ‘Supreme Soul’, can pertain to NO OTHER embodied soul on this corporeal sphere.

ALL these subtlest aspects of Spirituality can EASILY be understood by the CONCERNED Righteous Children, from the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, delivered by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is REAL Adi Dev, since the CONCERNED Righteous Children have since been enabled to DEVELOP their OWN THIRD Divine EYE of the intellect, WITHOUT having ANY further need to resort to, or depend on, ANY questions & answers about same, with ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.


रूद्र कहा जाता है परमपिता परमात्मा को, सो तुम जानते हो। राजस्व अश्वमेध अर्थात् यह रथ इस यज्ञ में स्वाहा करना है। बाकी जाकर आत्मायें रहती हैं। सबके शरीर स्वाहा होने हैं। होलिका होती है ना। विनाश के समय सबके शरीर इस यज्ञ में स्वाहा होंगे। सबके शरीरों की आहुति पड़नी है। परन्तु तुम बाप से, पहले वर्सा लेते हो। जाना तो सभी को है।
“You understand that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul is called Rudra. ‘Rajaswa Ashwamedh’ means that this Chariot (of the body) has to be sacrificed in this sacrificial Fire. Then, just souls remain. The bodies of everyone have to be sacrificed. There is ‘Holika’ (the bonfire created during Holi). At the time of destruction, the bodies of everyone will be sacrificed in this sacrificial fire. The oblation of the bodies of everyone has to take place. However, You FIRST claim your inheritance from the Father. Everyone has to return (Home).”

ONLY the ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE, is ALSO called as Rudra - which DOES NOT refer to Shankar, AT ALL!


परमपिता परमात्मा, ब्रह्मा मुख द्वारा मुख वंशावली रचते हैं। ... यह सारी रचना है मुख वंशावली। तुम उत्तम ठहरे क्योंकि तुम श्रेष्ठाचारी बनते हो। तुमको सिर्फ बाप को ही याद करना है क्योंकि ब्राह्मणों को बाप के पास ही जाना है। तुम जानते हो वापिस घर जाकर, फिर सतयुग में आकर पार्ट बजाना है, सुख का।
The Supreme Father Supreme Soul creates the ‘mouth-born’ progeny THROUGH the Mouth of Brahma. ... THIS entire Creation is the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. You are sovereign because you become very NOBLE. You simply have to remember ONLY the Father, because Brahmins have to go to the Father, Himself. You know that You have to return Home, and THEN come to the Golden Age to play your parts of Happiness.”

ONLY the ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, creates the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs), THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is REAL Adi Dev.
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, HIMSELF, CLEARLY DECLARES that the Righteous Children are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, who are sovereign because they become very NOBLE.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, creates the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny of the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins - (MASQUERADING as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of THEIR ‘Brahma’) - THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Prajapita’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children are NOT the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, but are the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


विनाश नजदीक आयेगा तो सबको यहाँ आना ही है। ... गणिकाओं, अहिल्याओं को भी उठाना है। उन्हों को जब तुम उठाओ, तब ही तुम्हारा नाम बाला होगा।
“As destruction comes closer, everyone will have to come (BACK) here. ... Those without virtues, and those with stone intellects, have also to be uplifted. ONLY when You uplift them, will your name be glorified.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who are WITHOUT TRUE Spiritual virtues, and who have ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, have to ULTIMATELY come BACK to the Godly University, from their DoGly university, to enable the Righteous Children to have MERCY on them and ALSO uplift them, as much as possible, BEFORE it is TOO LATE!


बाप को पहचाना, फिर बाप में संशय आ सकता है क्या? ... अमरपुरी का लायक बाबा बनाते हैं। यह अमरकथा पार्वतियों को अमरनाथ बाबा शिव ही सुना रहे हैं। बच्चे आये हैं बेहद बाबा के पास, वर्सा तो लेना ही है ना।
Once You have Re-Cognised the Father, can You then have doubt in the Father? ... Baba makes You worthy of the ‘Land of Immortality’ (‘Amarpuri’). Only Baba, the ‘Lord of Immortality’ (‘Amarnath’), Shiva, tells You Parvatis this ‘Story of Immortality’ (‘Amarkatha’). Children have come to the Unlimited Baba. You have to claim your inheritance.”

ONLY the ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE, is ALSO called as the ‘Lord of Immortality’ (‘Amarnath’) – (which DOES NOT refer to Shankar, AT ALL) – who tells the TRUE Parvatis, or the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), the ‘Story of Immortality’ (‘Amarkatha’), in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in order to make them worthy to go to the ‘Land of Immortality’ (‘Amarpuri’) - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – and enable them to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF!
ONCE the TRUE Parvatis, or the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), Re-Cognize & REAL-EYEs, BOTH, their ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva (who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Mother & their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father), AS WELL AS, their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba (who is ALSO their ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba - which role is THEN delegated to his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, as EVIDENT JagadAmba), they can NEVER have ANY doubt in THEM – UNLIKE, the BLIND Unrighteous children!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 05.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप बच्चों को क्या समझायेंगे? कौनसा बाप है। ... बीज को परमपिता परमात्मा, वा बाप कहते हैं, हम हैं उनके बच्चे, आत्मायें। तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में है कि हम आत्मायें परमात्मा की सन्तान हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा परमधाम में रहने वाले हैं। ...
ऊंच ते ऊंच है शिवबाबा।
“What would the Father explain to the Children? (He would explain) Who the Father is. ... The Seed is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, or the Father. We are His children, souls. It is in the intellects of You Children that You souls are the Children of God. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is the Resident of the Supreme Abode. ... ShivBaba is the Highest-on-High.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, explains to the Righteous Children that He is their REAL ‘Parlokik’ Father (besides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Grand-Father), and that Brahma Baba is their REAL ‘Alokik’ Father (besides ALSO being their ‘Alokik’ Mother, or REAL JagadAmba).
Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is THEIR REAL ‘Alokik’ Father – when he is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, or the ‘Parlokik’ Father, is the REAL SEED of the human World Tree.
Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the seed – thus OPPOSING & MOCKING God!

The terms, ‘Supreme Soul’ & ‘Highest-on-High’, can ONLY pertain to REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE.
Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the ‘Supreme Soul’; and that he is the highest-on-high, among all other embodied souls on this corporeal sphere – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


बाबा ने बतलाया है - इस सारे कर्मक्षेत्र पर रावण का राज्य है। रावण को जलाते भी यहाँ हैं। रावण का जन्म भी यहाँ होता है। यहाँ ही शिवबाबा का जन्म होता है।
“Baba has told You: It is now the kingdom of Ravan over this whole ‘Field of Action’ (‘Karmashetra’). It is here, itself, that they burn Ravan. The birth of Ravan takes place here, itself; and the Birth of ShivBaba also takes place here.”

The Spiritual Divine Birth of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, takes place in the Confluence Age, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev.

The Diabolic Devilish ‘birth’ of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, ALSO takes place in the Confluence Age, THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the corporeal body of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


मुख्य है ब्राह्मण धर्म। ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मण। ब्रह्मा कब आया? जरूर जब बाप सृष्टि रचेंगे तो पहले ब्राह्मण चाहिए। यह है डायरेक्ट ब्रह्मा की मुख वंशावली। ब्रह्मा है शिवबाबा का पहला बच्चा। क्या विष्णु को भी बच्चा कहेंगे? नहीं! अगर बच्चा हो तो उनसे भी सम्प्रदाय पैदा हो। परन्तु उनसे तो सम्प्रदाय पैदा होती ही नहीं। न उनको मम्मा-बाबा कहेंगे। वह तो महाराजा-महारानी को अपना ही एक बच्चा होता है।
“The main one is the Brahmin religion - the Brahmins who are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. When did Brahma come? When the Father creates the World, Brahmins are definitely needed first. These are the direct ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. Brahma is the FIRST Child of ShivBaba. Would Vishnu also be called His Child? No! If he (Vishnu) is a Child, there would be a community created through him also. However, neither is there a community created through him, nor would he be called ‘Mother & Father’. There, the Emperor and Empress would have only one son of their own.”

The Righteous Children are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma, who is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR. Brahma Baba is the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Child of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, born through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF.
Although Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, becomes Vishnu in Golden Age - ALONG WITH his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama - Vishnu CANNOT be called a Child of REAL ShivBaba, since neither is there a Spiritual community created through him, nor would he be called the Spiritual ‘Mother & Father’ by EVERYONE. In Golden Age, ONLY the TWO corporeal children of the Emperor & Empress, Laskhmi & Narayan (who are represented as Vishnu), would call them as their ‘Mother & Father’.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), are NOT the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma, but the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, while they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of THEIR Brahma – when he is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

The Defamer Of God FURTHER, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Brahma Baba is NOT the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Child of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, born through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF - thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


मुख्य है ही गीता। तुम अच्छी रीति समझ गये हो कि कैसे शिवबाबा आते हैं। ब्रह्मा भी जरूर चाहिए। अब ब्रह्मा कहाँ से आया? सूक्ष्मवतन में तो सम्पूर्ण ब्रह्मा है। इस बात में ही लोग अटकते हैं। ब्रह्मा का कर्तव्य क्या है? सूक्ष्मवतन में रह क्या करते होंगे? बाप समझाते हैं, जब यह व्यक्त रूप में हैं, तो इन द्वारा ज्ञान देता हूँ। फिर यही ज्ञान लेते-लेते फरिश्ता बन जाते हैं। वह है सम्पूर्ण रूप। वैसे मम्मा का भी है, तुम्हारा भी ऐसे ही सम्पूर्ण रूप बन जाता है।
“The Gita is the main one. You have understood VERY CLEARLY how ShivBaba comes. Brahma is also definitely needed. Where does Brahma come from? There is the perfect form of Brahma in the Subtle Region. People get stuck only in this aspect. What is Brahma’s task? What would he be doing in the Subtle Region? The Father explains: When he is in his corporeal form, I give Knowledge THROUGH him. THEN, as he continues to imbibe Knowledge, he, himself, becomes an Angel. That is his perfect form (in Subtle Region). Mama also has a similar form. Your perfect forms are also formed in the same way.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT enter the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle perfect form of Brahma Baba in the Subtle Region, but enters the impure corporeal body of the soul of DLR, on this corporeal sphere, who THEN becomes the REAL PrajaPita Brahma - addressed as Brahma Baba - through whose Lotus Mouth, REAL ShivBaba gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, UNTIL 1969. Brahma Baba continues to imbibe the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and becomes a COMPLETE PERFECT Angel in 1969, AFTER which, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle perfect form of Brahma Baba, NO LONGER EXISTS in the Subtle Region, since Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, becomes THAT COMPLETE PERFECT ANGELIC FORM, in PRACTICAL – and THAT perfect form is NO LONGER SYMBOLIC, or REPRESENTATIVE, ANY MORE, AFTER 1969. AFTER 1969, BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AS WELL AS, REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as REAL Adi Dev, COMBINED TOGETHER as BapDada, CONTINUE to provide Spiritual support, succour & sustenance to the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - in ‘Avyakt’, ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE – and NOT just in the Subtle Region – UNTIL the VERY END of the Confluence Age.


जो कल्प पहले पावन बने थे, वही आयेंगे। आकर ब्रह्मा के मुख वंशावली बनेंगे, और पुरूषार्थ कर शिवबाबा से अपना वर्सा लेंगे। रचयिता नॉलेजफुल वह है ना! वर्सा बाप से ही मिल सकता है। दादा को भी उनसे मिलता है। उनकी ही महिमा गाई जाती है, ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता..’, बरोबर सच्चा सुख देने वाला वह है। यह भी तुम जानते हो। दुनिया नहीं जानती। जब रावण राज्य शुरू होता है, तब ही दु:ख शुरू होता है। रावण बेसमझ बना देते हैं।
“Only those who became pure a Cycle ago will come (here). They come and become the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, and make effort to claim their inheritance from ShivBaba. He is the Creator, the Knowledge-FULL One. The inheritance can ONLY be received from the Father; even Dada (Brahma Baba) receives from Him. Only His praise is sung: ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, indeed, He is the One who gives TRUE Happiness. Only You know this; the World does not know. Sorrow begins only when the kingdom of Ravan begins. Ravan makes you senseless.

The Righteous Children come to the Godly University, and become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - in order to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from REAL ShivBaba, – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children go to the DoGly university, and become the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE ‘Brahma’, (while TREACHEROUSLY MASQUERADING as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma), through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - in order to claim their inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF.
Sorrow, in the form of Spiritual CONFLICT, begins in the Yagya, ONLY when the ‘shooting’ of the kingdom of Ravan begins - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age! The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, makes the BLIND Unrighteous children COMPLETELY & TOTALLY SENSELESS, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING & SATURATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप कहते हैं, मैं कल्प-कल्प, कल्प के संगमयुग पर साधारण वृद्ध तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ जिसका नाम फिर ब्रह्मा रखता हूँ। जो फिर ज्ञान को धारण करके अव्यक्त सम्पूर्ण ब्रह्मा बनते हैं। है वही, दूसरी बात नहीं है। ब्राह्मण फिर वही देवता बनते हैं, चक्र लगाकर अन्त में आकर शूद्र बनते हैं, फिर ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण रचते हैं। ... आत्मा सुनती है, परमात्मा बाप सुनाते हैं, ब्रह्मा मुख द्वारा। ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्थापना, तो जरूर मनुष्य ही होगा, और बूढ़ा भी होगा। ब्रह्मा को भी हमेशा बूढ़ा दिखाते हैं।
“The Father says: Cycle after Cycle, at the Confluence Age of the Cycle, I enter an ordinary old body, whose name is THEN kept as ‘Brahma’. He THEN imbibes the Knowledge and becomes the Avyakt, perfect Brahma. He is the SAME one; there is NO OTHER aspect. Brahmins themselves THEN become Deities, then go around the Cycle, and become ‘shudras’ in the end. Then Brahmins are created again THROUGH Brahma. ...
The Father, the Supreme Soul, speaks THROUGH the Mouth of Brahma, and You souls listen. Establishment is carried out THROUGH Brahma, therefore, he would definitely be a human being, and he would also be old. They always show Brahma also, as elderly.”

The soul of DLR was NOT Brahma, BEFORE ENTRY of REAL ShivBaba into his corporeal body, and became REAL PrajaPita Brahma, ONLY AFTER ENTRY of REAL ShivBaba into his corporeal body - being addressed as ‘Brahma Baba’, by the Righteous Children, or simply as ‘Brahma’, by REAL ShivBaba, in MANY Versions of the SMs, being the short-form for ‘PrajaPita Brahma’. The LAST, 84th impure corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is ORDINARY at the VERY END of Iron Age, as compared to his VERY OWN, FIRST pure corporeal body in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, which is VERY ROYAL.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the soul of DLR was NOT REAL Brahma, AFTER ENTRY of REAL ShivBaba into his corporeal body - to FURTHER TRICK them into DELUSIVELY believing that there was ANOTHER senior Brahmin in the Yagya in the very beginning, who was the original REAL ‘Brahma’, or ‘Prajapita Brahma’ – being his own self, in his previous birth, in Confluence Age!

Similarly, , the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the LAST, 84th corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR was NOT ORDINARY, since he had a royal personality - to FURTHER TRICK them into DELUSIVELY believing that this refers to his own ORDINARY corporeal body, and NOT to the ‘royal’ corporeal body of Brahma Baba - thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


शिवबाबा कहते हैं, मामेकम् याद करो। शिव को, ब्रह्मा को, ‘बाबा’ कहते हैं, शंकर को कभी ‘बाबा’ नहीं कहते। वह तो शिव-शंकर को मिला देते हैं।
“Shiv Baba says: Constantly remember Me ALONE. Shiva and Brahma are called ‘Baba’, but Shankar is NEVER called ‘Baba’. They mix up Shiva and Shankar.”

ONLY REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God AND REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev are addressed as, ‘Baba’. Shankar is NEVER addressed as, ‘Baba’, since Shankar is a subtle Deity of the Subtle Region, who NEVER comes on this corporeal sphere, to enact ANY corporeal role, through ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, address their bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) - as, ‘Baba’, or ‘ShivBaba’, DELUSIVELY believing that Shiva enacts the role of Shankar through his impure corporeal body, (AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969), and DELUSIVELY consider him to be ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, and hence address him as ‘ShivBaba’, thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of the MISTAKEN belief in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, that Shiv and Shankar are ONE, by MIXING UP Shiva with Shankar!

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Post by Golden Heart » 06 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 02.05.1982, Revised 06.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बापदादा ने आये हुए सब बच्चों का रिगार्ड रख मुरली भी चलाई।
“BapDada have maintained regard for all Children who have come, and spoken the Murli accordingly.”

The Versions spoken through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, by BOTH,
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - COMBINED TOGETHER, as BapDada - are also termed as ‘Murli’, and NOT JUST ‘Vani’.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Versions spoken through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, cannot be termed as ‘Murli’, but ONLY as ‘Vani’, which are spoken ONLY by the soul of Brahma Baba ALONE, and NOT by ShivBaba!


अभी बापदादा वतन में बहुत चिटचैट करते हैं। दोनों स्वतंत्र आत्मायें हैं। सेवा तो सेकण्ड में किया, सर्व को अनुभव कराया, फिर आपस में क्या करेंगे? रूहरिहान करते रहते हैं। ब्रह्मा बाप की यही, जन्म के पहले दिन की, आशा थी। कौनसी? सदा यह फखुर और नशा रहा कि मैं भी बाप समान जरूर बनूँगा। आदि के, ब्रह्मा के बोल याद हैं? ‘आ रहा हूँ, समा रहा हूँ’, यही सदा नशे के बोल, जन्म के, संकल्प और वाणी में रहे। तो यही आदि के बोल अब कार्य समाप्त कर, जो लक्ष्य रखा है, उसी लक्ष्य रूप में समा गये। पहले अर्थ मालूम नहीं था, लेकिन बनी हुई भावी पहले से बोल रही थी। और लास्ट में क्या देखा? बाप समान, व्यक्त के बन्धन को कैसे छोड़ा? सांप के समान पुरानी खाल छोड़ दी ना? और कितने में खेल हुआ? घडियों का ही खेल हुआ ना? इसको कहा जाता है, बाप समान, व्यक्त भाव को भी सहज छोड़, नष्टोमोहा स्मृति स्वरूप। यह संकल्प भी उठा – ‘मैं जा रहा हूँ, क्या हो रहा है’? बच्चे सामने हैं, लेकिन देखते भी, नहीं देखा। सिर्फ लाइट माइट, समानता की दृष्टि देते, उड़ता पंछी उड़ गया। ऐसे ही अनुभव किया ना? कितनी सहज उड़ान हुई, जो देखने वाले देखते रहे, और उड़ने वाला उड़ गया। इसको कहा जाता है आदि में यही बोल, और अन्त में वह स्वरूप हो गया। ऐसे ही फालो फादर।
“Now (Shiv)Bap and (Brahma)Dada chit-chat a lot in the Subtle Region. BOTH are INDEPENDENT SOULS. They do Service in a second, and give everyone an experience, THEN what would they do among themselves? They continue to have Spiritual conversations. Father Brahma only had this desire from the first day of his ‘birth’. What was that? He constantly had the Spiritual concern and intoxication, that he too would definitely become equal to Father (Shiva). Do you remember the words of Brahma (Baba) in the beginning? ‘I am coming, I am merging’. He constantly spoke these words of intoxication in his thoughts and speech, from (the time of) his ‘birth’. Then, as per his words from the beginning, having finished that role, he became merged in the form of the aim, which he had. At first, he did not understand its significance, but the predestined future, was enabling him to foretell. So, what did You see at the end? How did he let go of the bondage of the corporeal form, like Father (Shiva)? He shed the old skin just as a snake does, is it not? And how long did that game take? It was a game of just a few moments, was it not? This is known as becoming EQUAL to Father (Shiva) - by easily letting go of gross feelings, and becoming a destroyer of attachment, and an embodiment of Remembrance. Did he have such thoughts as, ‘I am going. What is happening?’ The Children were in front, but while seeing them, he did not observe them. While continuing to give the ‘drishti’ of Light & Might, of being EQUAL (to Father Shiva), he flew away like a flying bird. This was what You experienced, was it not? His flight was so easy that those who were watching simply remained watching, and he, who was flying, flew away. This is known as speaking those words in the beginning, and becoming the form of them at the end. Follow Father (Brahma) in the same way.”

BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, are INDEPENDENT souls, who do Spiritual Service, and give everyone a Spiritual Experience, as required, in a SECOND - ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE - and NOT JUST in the Subtle Region.
Brahma Baba left the bondage of his corporeal form, and shed the old ‘skin’ of his impure corporeal body, just as a snake easily sheds its old skin; and just as Father Shiva used to come and leave the ‘skin’ of his impure corporeal body, AT EASE. Although he had a heart condition, and the apparent corporeal cause of leaving his impure corporeal body was on account of his past residual karmic debts, owing to the failure of the heart, and a heart-attack, this corporeal GAME lasted ONLY for a FEW MOMENTS - but his SOUL was in PERFECT CONTROL of the situation, including the malfunction of the physical heart of his impure corporeal body, due to which he was EASILY ABLE to let go of the bondage of his impure corporeal form, within a FEW MOMENTS, and THEN became EQUAL to Incorporeal Father Shiva - and ACHIEVED his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE - by easily letting go of his gross feelings, and becoming a destroyer of attachment, and an embodiment of ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of NONE but ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE.
He FLEW AWAY like a flying bird, while continuing to give the ‘drishti’ of Light & Might, as the EVIDENT PRACTICAL PROOF of having become EQUAL to Father Shiva – thus becoming the PRACTICAL FORM of his AIM of becoming EQUAL to Father Shiva, at the END of his corporeal role within an impure corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere, in Confluence Age.
AFTER Brahma Baba left his impure corporeal body, as EASILY as a snake sheds its old skin, in 1969, and became a COMPLETE ANGEL, he CONTINUES his Spiritual Service of World Purification & World Transformation, at a MUCH FASTER SPEED, ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, COMBINED TOGETHER, as BapDada, who CONTINUE to provide Spiritual support, succour, solace & sustenance to the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, while STILL continuing to be within their CURRENT impure corporeal bodies, by following the CLEAR UNADULTERATED DIRECTIVES of BapDada.

Whereas, IN STARK CONTRAST to ALL ABOVE, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing
that Brahma Baba could not have become a COMPLETE, PERFECT ANGEL, and could not have achieved his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969, since he FORCEFULLY & SUDDENLY LEFT owing to a heart-attack – and CONTINUES to DELUDE them, and INDOCTRINATE them, with an IMAGINARY COMPREHENSION of the Spiritual status of Brahma Baba, which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the Pure Versions of God, but which the BLIND Unrighteous children, NEVERTHELESS, keep RANTING by ROTE, like DELUSIVE SPIRITUAL PARROTS, who are under a SEVERE SPELL, in spite of bringing such Pure Versions of God to their notice CONTINUOUSLY, AGAIN & AGAIN!

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Post by Golden Heart » 07 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 07.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
भक्तिमार्ग में अनेक प्रकार का गायन होता है। गायन निराकार, आकार और साकार, तीनों का होता है। अब बाप बच्चों को समझाते हैं, बच्चे तो समझ गये कि हम आत्मा हैं। हमको समझाने वाला है, परमपिता परमात्मा। ...
उस बाप की ही अव्यभिचारी याद रहनी चाहिए, और कोई नाम रूप की याद नहीं आनी चाहिए।
“There are many varieties of praise on the ‘Path of Devotion’. ALL three - the Incorporeal, subtle and corporeal ones, are praised. The Father is NOW explaining to You Children, and Children have understood that You are souls. The One who is explaining to us is Supreme Father Supreme Soul. ...
There should be UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY that Father. NO OTHER name or form should be remembered.

There is ALSO GRADUAL DEGRADATION on the ‘Path of Devotion’ with the passage to time, from the very beginning of Copper Age to the very end of Iron Age – from ‘Satopradhan’ to ‘Rajopradhan’ to ‘Tamopradhan’. ALL THREE - the Incorporeal, subtle and corporeal ones, are praised, on the ‘Path of Devotion’.
The term, ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’, pertains ONLY to ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE.
The term, ‘Supreme Soul’, CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere.
There should be ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE – and NO OTHER name or form should be remembered.
Those who CONTINUE to ADULTERATE the Remembrance of Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, with ANY corporeal or subtle form of ANY embodied soul, are STILL in the process of carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’, or Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age. Such embodied souls will be in a position to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, in the SMs & AVs, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, ONLY AFTER they COMPLETE the process of carrying out the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’, or Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age!


बाप कहते हैं, मैं भी आत्मा हूँ। परन्तु परम आत्मा, यानी परमात्मा हूँ। मेरा नाम तो है ना। मैं हूँ आत्मा। मैं शरीर कभी धारण करता नहीं हूँ, इसलिए मेरा नाम रखा गया है, शिव; और सभी के शरीर के नाम पड़ते हैं, मेरा तो शरीर नहीं है। नाम तो चाहिए ना। नहीं तो मैं भी आत्मा, तो फिर परमात्मा कौन है? मैं हूँ परम आत्मा, मेरा नाम है शिव।
“The Father says: I too am a Soul, but I am the Supreme Soul, that is, the Supreme Being (God). I do have a Name. I am a Soul. I NEVER take a body, which is why My Name is kept as Shiva. All others have names given to their bodies; I do not have a body. A name is definitely needed, otherwise, if I too am just a soul, then who is the Supreme Being (God)? I am the Supreme Soul; My name is Shiva.”

The term, ‘Supreme Soul’, pertains ONLY to ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE - and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere!


जैसे तुम्हारी आत्मा, वैसे मेरी है। तुम भी बिन्दी, मैं भी बिन्दी हूँ। मुझ बिन्दी का नाम है शिव। पहचान के लिए नाम तो चाहिए ना। इस समय ब्रह्मा सरस्वती, जो बड़े ते बड़े हैं, उनको भी सद्गति मिल रही है।
“As is your soul, so is Mine. You are a Point, and I too am a POINT. The Name of Myself, a POINT, is Shiva. A name is needed for Re-Cognition. At THIS TIME, Brahma & Saraswati, who are the HIGHEST, are also receiving Salvation.”

Just as the ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is just a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy, so ALSO, the individual soul is just a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy
Like Father, like Son.
The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the Highest-on-High; and the embodied souls of Brahma Baba, (who is REAL JagadPita or PrajaPita), and Saraswati Mama, (who is REAL, instrumental, JagadAmba), are the HIGHEST among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.


सारी रूद्र माला का बीजरूप बाप है ना। सभी उनको याद करते हैं, ‘ओ, गॉड फादर’।
“ The Father is the Seed-form of the ENTIRE ‘Rosary of Rudra’. Everyone remembers Him:
‘O God the Father’! ”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, is the Incorporeal Seed-form of the ENTIRE ‘Rosary of Rudra’.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the ‘seed’ of the ‘Rosary of Rudra’ – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


मदर भी एडाप्टेड है। सरस्वती को भी परमपिता परमात्मा ने ब्रह्मा द्वारा एडाप्ट किया, और फिर इसमें प्रवेश किया हैयह एडाप्शन और प्रकार की है, थ्रू तो कोई चाहिए ना। कहते हैं, इन द्वारा मैं नॉलेज सुनाता हूँ, इन द्वारा बच्चे एडाप्ट करता हूँ। तो यह माता भी सिद्ध होती है। प्रवृत्ति मार्ग है ना। परन्तु है तो मेल इसलिए मुख्य सरस्वती को माता के पद पर रखा जाता है। यह बड़े गुह्य राज समझने के हैं। प्रजापिता है ना, प्रजा को रचने वाला। इन द्वारा वह रचते हैं, ऐसे नहीं कि सरस्वती द्वारा कोई एडाप्ट करते हैं, नहीं! यह तो बड़ी समझ की बात है। पहले-पहले बाप का परिचय देना होता है।
“The Mother is also adopted. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul has also ADOPTED Saraswati through Brahma, while He has ENTERED THIS one. This ‘adoption’ is of a DIFFERENT order, someone is required to work THROUGH. He says: I speak Knowledge THROUGH THIS one, and adopt Children THROUGH THIS one. Therefore, THIS ONE is also proved to be a Mother. This is the house-hold path, but since he is male, hence Saraswati is given the status of the MAIN Mother. These are very subtle secrets which have to be understood. This is the ‘Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’) through whom the subjects are created. He (ShivBaba) creates THROUGH THIS one (Brahma Baba). It is not that He adopts anyone through Saraswati; NO! This is a GREAT aspect to be understood. First of all, the Father’s introduction has to be given.”

Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, adopts the soul of DLR, as PrajaPita Brahma, by ENTERING him, through his OWN Lotus Mouth of his OWN impure corporeal body, and therefore this ‘adoption’ is DIFFERENT, from the ADOPTION of ALL OTHER Righteous Children, including the soul of Saraswati Mama, who are THEN simply adopted through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of the corporeal/subtle body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma - ALSO referred to ONLY as ‘Brahma’, for short, in MANY Versions of the SMs, and addressed as ‘Brahma Baba’ by the Righteous Children.
The ENTIRE Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge is delivered through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, by ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva – and hence, Brahma Baba is PROVED to be the ‘Alokik’ Mother (besides ALSO being the ‘Alokik’ Father) of the Righteous Children. In this manner, the house-hold path, of the ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, the ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, and the Righteous Children, is PROVED. However, since Brahma Baba is in a MALE corporeal body, hence this status of the MAIN Mother, is THEN delegated to Saraswati Mama, who is in a FEMALE corporeal body, at THAT TIME, in Confluence Age!
These are the SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality, for which a VERY DEEP & SUBTLE intellect is ESSENTIAL to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


पतित-पावन बाप आकर आत्माओं से बात करते हैं। ब्रह्मा तन में आकर समझाते हैं, इसलिए इनका नाम है, प्रजापिता। ब्रह्मा द्वारा प्रजा रचते हैं। कौन सी? जरूर नई प्रजा रचेंगे। आत्मा जो अपवित्र है, उनको पवित्र बनाते हैं।
“The Purifier Father comes and talks to souls. He enters the body of Brahma and speaks, which is why the name of THIS one is PrajaPita (‘Father of the People’). People are created through Brahma. Which creation? Surely, He would create the people ANEW. He purifies souls who have become impure.”

Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the Purifier, ENTERS the impure corporeal body of DLR, who THEN becomes the REAL PrajaPita Brahma, AFTER ENTRY of Shiva, who THEN Re-Creates ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, and speaks to embodied souls, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, in order to purify ALL embodied souls, and carry out his PRIMARY FUNCTIONS of World Purification & World Transformation – from the beginning, to the middle, to the VERY END of Confluence Age - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, till the end of Confluence Age.


राम तो है ही निराकार। राम-राम कहते हैं ना। एक को ही जपते हैं। गॉड फादर शिव निराकार, तो उनको आरगन्स चाहिए ना। तो शिवबाबा इन द्वारा बैठ समझाते हैं। ... चढ़ती कला बाप करते हैं, फिर रावण आता है तो सबकी उतरती कला हो जाती है।
“RAMA is Incorporeal. They say: RAMA-RAMA. They chant the name of ONLY ONE. God Father Shiva is Incorporeal, and so He needs organs. So, ShivBaba sits and explains THROUGH THIS one. ... The Father facilitates the stage of ASCENT. THEN, when Ravan comes, it becomes the stage of DESCENT for everyone.”

When the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya chant the name, ‘RAMA-RAMA’, it ACTUALLY refers to ONLY ONE Incorporeal RAMA - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE – and to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.
Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that when the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya chant the name, ‘RAMA-RAMA’ – one ‘RAMA’ refers to Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Shiva; while the other ‘Rama’ refers to THEIR corporeal bodily guru, whom they DELUSIVE believe to be THEIR ‘Alokik’ Father or ‘Prajapita’ - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Rama’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., etc., etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Righteous Children, the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and TRUE RajYog, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devfrom the beginning, to the middle, to the VERY END of Confluence Age - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, till the end of Confluence Age – through whom He facilitates the stage of ASCENT for the CONCERNED Righteous Children – in Confluence Age, ITSELF.
Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – through whom Ravan facilitates the stage of DESCENT for the BLIND Unrighteous children, WHILE TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them that they are in the stage of ASCENT – in Confluence Age, ITSELF!


तुम अथॉरिटी से समझाने वाले हो, तो भी रिस्पेक्ट से बोलना है कि तुम भल कहते हो कि हम गॉड फादर की सन्तान हैं, परन्तु फादर का ज्ञान कहाँ है? लौकिक बाप को तो जानते हो, परन्तु पारलौकिक बाप जो इतना बेहद का सुख देते हैं, स्वर्ग का मालिक बनाते हैं, उनको तुम नहीं जानते हो। ...
सभी भ्रष्टाचारी हैं क्योंकि विष से पैदा होते हैं। यह तो कोई भी समझ जायेगा, इसमें इन्सल्ट की कोई बात नहीं है। यह तो समझानी दी जाती है।
“You are the ones who explain with AUTHORITY, then too You should speak with RESPECT, and tell them: Although you say that you are children of God Father, but where is the Knowledge of the Father? You do know your worldly father, but you do not know the ‘Parlokik’ (from beyond this World) Father, who gives (us) so much Unlimited Happiness, and makes (us) into the Masters of Heaven. ...
All are DEGRADED, because they are born through Vice. Anyone can understand this. There is no question of an INSULT in this; this is ONLY an explanation being given.

The Righteous Children explain with Spiritual AUTHORITY, and speak with Spiritual RESPECT, and CLEARLY tell the BLIND Unrighteous children, that ALTHOUGH they maintain that they are the children of God Father, but they DO NOT have the UNADULTERATED Knowledge of REAL God Father, but ONLY have the ADULTERATED knowledge of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as REAL God Father - but who is ACTUALLY the APPARENT or FALSE ‘God Father’, who TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS them into DELUSIVELY believing that such ADULTERATED knowledge, represents the so-called ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, but which are ACTUALLY the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of same! Further, the BLIND Unrighteous children DO KNOW THEIR bodily guru, whom they DELUSIVELY consider to be THEIR corporeal ‘Alokik’ Father, or ‘Prajapita’, but they STILL DO NOT KNOW, or Re-Cognize, or REAL-EYEs, or EXPERIENCE, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who gives the Righteous Children so much Unlimited Happiness, and makes them into the Masters of Heaven.
The intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children have become TOTALLY DEGRADED, ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED by PROLONGED EXPOSURE to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which ACTUALLY represents the SUBTLE VICE of SUBTLE LUST on a SUBTLE LEVEL, in Confluence Age, which nourishes and sustains the GROSS Vice of SEX LUST in the embodied souls of the outer World of Ravan Rajya!
Any reasonably sensible person should be able to understand this. There is no question of an INSULT in this to ANYONE, or ANY DISRESPECT for ANYONE; this is ONLY an explanation being given for the ULTIMATE BENEFIT of the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, on this planet Earth, with an attitude of UNLIMITED COMPASSION, and a vision of ABSOLUTE BENEVOLENCE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 08.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
काम विकार है बड़ा शत्रु। पवित्रता के कारण ही मारामारी, हंगामा आदि होता है। ऊंच ते ऊंच बाप ही माया पर जीत पहनाए, जगत का मालिक बना सकते हैं। ... जिस्मानी पढ़ाई भी पवित्रता में ही पढ़ी जाती है। यह है रूहानी पढ़ाई। इसमें बर्तन सोने का अर्थात् पवित्र चाहिए, जिसमें ज्ञान धन ठहर सके।
“The Vice of Lust is the greatest enemy. There is violence, furore, etc., only because of purity. Only the Highest-on-High Father can enable You to achieve victory over Maya, and make You into the Masters of the World. ... A worldly study is also studied in purity (celibacy). This is a Spiritual Study. Here, your Vessel (intellect) has to be golden, that is, pure, in which the Wealth of Knowledge can be retained.”

The INCOGNITO, SUBTLE Vice of SUBTLE Lust, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya & propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, is the GREATEST ENEMY of individual souls, and of soul-consciousness – which is the SUBTLE SEED, which sustains & nourishes the GROSS Vice of Sex Lust in embodied souls, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya!
ONLY the Highest-on-High Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, can enable embodied souls to achieve victory over this SUBTLEST Vice of SUBTLE Lust of Maya, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - to THEN enable them to become the Masters of the New World of RamRajya.
UNTIL the intellects of embodied souls become golden, or pure, by FIRST PURGING the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, from their intellects, the REAL Wealth of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge CANNOT be retained within their intellects, for effective inculcation of same!


जितना-जितना ज्ञान योग की धारणा होती जायेगी, उतना बुद्धि पवित्र होती जायेगी क्योंकि अब बुद्धि में है कि हमको वापिस लौटना है। आइरन एज से कॉपर एज में आना है, फिर सिल्वर एज में, फिर गोल्डन एज में आना है। यह पढ़ाई ऐसी है, जो चलते-चलते फिर माया का वार हो जाता है।
“The more You continue to imbibe Knowledge and Yoga, the purer your intellects will continue to become, because it is NOW in your intellects that You have to return Home. You have to come from (the stage of) the Iron Age to the Copper Age, then to the Silver Age, and then come to (the stage of) the Golden Age. This Study is such that, while You are moving along, Maya ATTACKS you.

This Supreme Spiritual Study is such that, while one is moving along from the Spiritual stage of the Iron Age, towards the Spiritual stage of the Golden Age, Maya ATTACKS FEROCIOUSLY with the SUBTLE Vice of the SUBTLE Lust, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya & propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


आइरन एज से कॉपर एज में आने से, फिर माया के तूफान घेर लेते हैं, तो बुद्धि फिर आइरन एजेड बन जाती है, और गिर पड़ते हैं। गिरना और चढ़ना यह तो है जरूर। चढ़कर फिर कॉपर एज, सिल्वर एज, गोल्डन एजेड में आना है। पढ़ते-पढ़ते ज्ञान सुनते-सुनते पिछाड़ी में हमारी वह गोल्डन एज बुद्धि बनेगी, तब हम शरीर छोड़ देंगे।
While You come from (the stage of) the Iron Age to (the stage of) the Copper Age, storms of Maya surround You, and your intellect becomes Iron-Aged again, and You fall. You definitely fall, and then climb (again). You have to climb and come to (the stage of) the Copper Age, then the Silver Age, and then the Golden Age. While CONTINUING to Study and listen to the Knowledge, when our intellects become Golden Aged, by the end, then we will leave our bodies.”

When the BLIND Unrighteous children attempt to move from the Spiritual stage of the Iron Age, towards the Spiritual stage of the Copper Age, the FEROCIOUS, ATTRACTIVE STORMS of the SUBTLE Vice of the SUBTLE Lust, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, TOTALLY ENGULF & ENCOMPASS their intellects - and their resultant ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED intellects become Iron-Aged, or INVERTED, AGAIN, and they CONTINUE to FALL PREY to the POWERFUL ENTRANCING & ENCHANTING NEGATIVE ENERGY, of the MESMERIZING ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, DELUSIVELY considering same to be the ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - when they are ACTUALLY the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of same!
ONLY by FIRST PURGING the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, from their intellects, can the REAL Wealth of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge be THEN retained within their intellects, in order to gradually become Golden Aged, ONCE AGAIN!


जितना ऊंच पढ़ते जायेंगे, खुशी बढ़ती जायेगी। ... थोड़ा पढ़ने में थोड़ा बल, जास्ती पढ़ने में जास्ती बल मिलता है। बड़ा पद मिलता है। यह भी ऐसे है। कम पढ़ने से, पद भी कम मिलता है। बाप ने समझाया है - यह ब्राह्मण धर्म बहुत छोटा है। ब्राह्मण ही देवता सूर्यवंशी, चन्द्रवंशी बनते हैं। अभी पुरूषार्थ कर रहे हैं। तुम ऐसे समझो – अजुन, हम कॉपर एज तक पहुँचे हैं। फिर सिल्वर, गोल्डन एज तक आना है।
“The higher your study, the more your happiness increases. ... By studying a little, you receive a little power, and by studying a lot more, you receive a lot more power; you attain a great status. It is the same here: by studying a little, the status You receive is also low. The Father has explained: This Brahmin religion is very small. Brahmins, THEMSELVES, become the Deities of the Sun and Moon dynasties. You are now making effort. You should understand that, as yet, You have reached up to the Copper Age. Then You have to come till (the stage of) the Silver and Golden Ages.”

Although REAL ShivBaba mentions that He establishes THREE religions in Confluence Age – Brahmin, Deity (Sun dynasty) & Kshatriya (Moon dynasty) – it must be understood that Brahmins of Confluence Age, THEMSELVES, THEN become the Deities of the Sun & Moon dynasties, in the New World of RamRajya, number-wise, in accordance with the Spiritual efforts made in Confluence Age.
It is NOT that the Brahmin religion is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the other TWO, and hence CANNOT be taken in ISOLATION of the other TWO - as is sometimes misconceived by some Brahmins of Confluence Age, who are still in the process of carrying out the ‘shooting’ of Ravan Rajya, or who are STILL in their Iron-Aged or Copper-Aged Spiritual stages!


तुम जानते हो ज्ञान और योग से, आइरन एज से हमें गोल्डन एज में जाना है। तमोप्रधान से सतोप्रधान होना है। यह बातें और कोई नया समझ न सके। ...
जब तक तुम गोल्डन एज में न आओ, तब तक सृष्टि का विनाश हो नहीं सकता।
“You know that, through Knowledge and Yoga, You have to go from (the stage of) the Iron Age to (the stage of) the Golden Age. You have to become ‘satopradhan’ from ‘tamopradhan’. Anyone, who is new, would NOT be able to understand these aspects. ... The destruction (transformation) of the World CANNOT take place, UNTIL You reach (the stage of) the Golden Age.

The FINAL destruction, or transformation, of the OLD World of Ravan Rajya, CANNOT take place, UNTIL the CONCERNED Righteous Children FIRST reach their stage of the Golden Age, or their Spiritual Golden Aged stage.
Anyone, who is new, would NOT be able to comprehend these subtle aspects of Spirituality, in the proper perspective!


यह सत्य-नारायण की वा अमरनाथ की कथा तुम ही सुना सकते हो। ... बरोबर बाप ब्रह्मा द्वारा वर्सा देते हैं। ... माया से हार खाई है। अब फिर माया पर जीत पानी है।
“Only You can relate the Story of the ‘TRUE Narayan’ (‘Satya Narayan’), and of the ‘Lord of Immortality’ (‘Amarnath’). ... The Father TRULY gives You an inheritance THROUGH Brahma. ... You have been defeated by Maya. You NOW have to achieve victory over Maya, ONCE AGAIN.”

ONLY the Righteous Children can relate the Story of the ‘TRUE Narayan’ (‘Satya Narayan’), who is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and of the ‘Lord of Immortality’ (‘Amarnath’), who is REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godand DEFINITELY NOT Shankar!
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God gives the inheritance of Sovereignty to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – and through NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.

The BLIND Unrighteous children who have been DEFEATED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - (propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) –
can STILL achieve victory over Ravan or Maya, by FIRST PURGING the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, from their intellects - ONLY AFTER which can the REAL Nectar of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge be retained within their intellects, in order to enable them to gradually become Golden Aged, ONCE AGAIN!


तुम नंगे (अशरीरी) आये थे। पहले-पहले तुमने स्वर्ग में पार्ट बजाया। तुम गोरे अर्थात् पवित्र थे। फिर काम चिता पर बैठने से, अभी काले बन गये हो। भारत गोल्डन एजड था। अभी भारत को आइरन एजेड कहा जाता है। अभी फिर काम चिता से उतर, ज्ञान चिता पर बैठना है। बाप कहते हैं, मामेकम् याद करो। पवित्रता का प्रण करो।
“You came naked (bodiless). At FIRST, You played your parts in Heaven. You were beautiful, that is, You were pure. Then, by sitting on the ‘Pyre of Lust’, You have NOW become ugly. Bharat was Golden Aged. Bharat is now said to be Iron-Aged. You now have to get down from the ‘Pyre of Lust’ (‘Kam chitha’), and sit on the ‘Pyre of Knowledge’ (‘Gyan chitha’). The Father says: Remember Me ALONE. Make a vow of purity.”

The term, ‘you came naked’, means the souls first came on this corporeal sphere, without the costumes of corporeal bodies, and THEN took on the corporeal bodies, to play their roles in REAL Paradise or Heaven.
The BLIND Unrighteous children are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that embodied souls live in Golden Age, WITHOUT ANY clothes or costumes, fully naked or nude; and that there are no palatial mansions in Golden Age, made out of real gold, since such Versions are only symbolic, (according to them), and refer to the corporeal body, itself, which is like pure gold, or Golden Aged!
Thus, this CONFIRMS that the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, CANNOT sit in the IMPURE, ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects of the Blind Unrighteous children, who have been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!
The BLIND Unrighteous children have FIRST to get down from the ‘Pyre of Lust’ (‘Kam chitha’) of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - ONLY AFTER which would it be possible for them to sit on the ‘Pyre of Knowledge’ (‘Gyan chitha’) of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR!


एक बाप के बच्चे हम भाई-बहन हैं। तुम भी बच्चे हो, परन्तु समझते नहीं हो। बी.के. बनेंगे तब ही शिवबाबा से वर्सा ले सकते हो। ... हम ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां बाप से वर्सा लेते हैं। पवित्रता की प्रतिज्ञा करते हैं।
“We are Brothers and Sisters, children of the ONE Father. You too are His children, but you DO NOT consider yourselves to be so. ONLY when you become a BK, can you claim your inheritance from ShivBaba. ... We Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs) claim our inheritance from the Father. We make a pledge of purity.”

ALL embodied souls, INCLUDING the BLIND Unrighteous children, are the Spiritual children of ONE ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva (who is ALSO the ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Grand-Father), THROUGH ONE ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba (who is ALSO the ‘Alokik’ Mother, or REAL JagadAmba). But the BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT consider Brahma Baba to be their ‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, their ‘Alokik’ Mother – but DELUSIVELY believe that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, is THEIR ‘Alokik’ Father or ‘Prajapita’! ONLY when they become TRUE BKs, by FIRST Re-Cognizing, REAL-EYEsing & EXPERIENCING, BOTH, their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT, Shiva, AS WELL AS, their ‘Alokik’ Parent, Brahma Baba, can they claim the TRUE inheritance of Sovereignty of REAL RamRajya, from ShivBaba, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF.


जो पावन बनने चाहते हैं, उनको नंगन नहीं किया जाए। पुरूष लोग विकार के लिए बहुत तंग करते हैं, इसलिए मातायें भारत को श्रेष्ठ बनाने में मदद नहीं कर सकती हैं। इस पर प्रोब बनाना चाहिए। परन्तु वह ताकत अजुन बच्चों में आई नहीं है। जब गोल्डन स्टेज में आयेंगे, तब वह फलक होगी, किसको समझाने की।
“Those who wish to become pure should not be stripped. Men cause a lot of distress because of Vice, which is why mothers are unable to assist in making Bharat elevated. A probe should be made regarding this. However, Children have not developed that strength, as yet. When You reach the Golden Stage, You will have that sparkle of explaining to someone.”

The Defamer Of God STRIPS the INNOCENT/IGNORANT SELECTED ‘kanyas & matas’, and physically copulates with them, after TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing, that such IMPURE ACT of physical, sexual copulation with him, will enable them to become MORE STABLE in the remembrance of Shiva, and that they would then become TRUE ‘Parvatis’ – which is CLEARLY EQUIVALENT to, BOTH, physical, AS WELL AS, Spiritual RAPE & FORNICATION - and ALL those BLIND Unrighteous children who support this KNOWINGLY or UNKNOWINGLY, become ACCESSORIES AFTER the FACT! A PROPER PROBE should be made regarding this, to prevent such physical & Spiritual RAPE of other such INNOCENT/IGNORANT ‘kanyas & matas’!


बच्चे समझते हैं, बड़ी ऊंची चढ़ाई है। माँ-बाप को फालो करना पड़े। मात-पिता तो कहते हैं। वह बाप है, तो यह माता हो गई। परन्तु मेल है, इसलिए माता को कलष दिया जाता है।
“You Children understand that this is a steep climb. You have to follow the Mother and Father. You do say: Mother & Father. That One is the Father, and so THIS one is the Mother. However, because he is a male, the urn is given to the Mother (Saraswati).”

Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ Father, Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Mother, and the Righteous Brahmins are the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma, who is Brahma Baba – and therefore, this becomes a Divine Family path, or a house-hold path. However, since Brahma Baba is in a male corporeal body, therefore, the function of the MAIN Mother is THEN delegated to his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama. The Righteous Children have to follow Mother Saraswati (soul of Om Radhe) & Father Brahma (soul of DLR), both of whom were PRACTICAL EXAMPLES, through their impure corporeal bodies, on this corporeal sphere, until 1965/69 – and whose PRACTICAL EXAMPLES can be followed by ALL Righteous Children, who come into Knowledge, EVEN AFTER 1965/69, through the CONCERNED instrumental souls – UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age.


अबलाओं पर अत्याचार होते हैं। यह शास्त्रों में है कि द्रोपदी के चीर उतारे थे। तो उस समय याद करने सिवाए और कर ही क्या सकेंगे। अन्दर में शिवबाबा को याद करेंगे, तो वह पाप नहीं लगता है। परवश है। हाँ, बचने की कोशिश करनी है। हर एक का कर्म बन्धन अलग-अलग है।
“Innocent ones are being assaulted. It says in the Scriptures that Draupadi was stripped. Therefore, AT THAT TIME, what else can be done, except to stay in Remembrance? If you Remember Shiv Baba internally, then that sin will not be incurred. You are under the influence of others. Yes, You do have to try to save yourself. The karmic bondage of each one is different.”

The Defamer Of God STRIPS & ASSAULTS the INNOCENT/IGNORANT ‘kanyas & matas’, and physically copulates with them, after TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing, that such IMPURE ACT of physical, sexual copulation with him, will enable them to become MORE STABLE in the remembrance of Shiva, and that they would then become TRUE ‘Parvatis’ – thus EFFECTIVELY RAPING them, BOTH, physically, AS WELL AS, Spiritually!
At SUCH a TIME, the POOR, INNOCENT/IGNORANT ‘kanyas & matas’ can do NOTHING, but to make a best attempt to Remember REAL ShivBaba, internally, so that they THEMSELVES will not incur any sin from such SEXUAL ASSAULT, since they INADVERTENTLY allowed themselves to come under the EVIL influence of the Defamer Of God – but they should try to SAVE themselves as much as possible, since this is ALSO a karmic bondage!


ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारी भाई बहन हो गये, विकार की दृष्टि जा नहीं सकती। बाप कहते हैं, अगर इस प्रतिज्ञा को तोड़ेंगे तो बड़ी चोट लगेगी। ... यह सब गुप्त बातें हैं। यहाँ मुख्य है - पवित्रता और पढ़ाई।
“Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs) are Brothers and Sisters, so there cannot be any vision of Vice. The Father says: If you break this pledge, You will get hurt. ...
All these aspects are incognito. Here, the main aspects are Purity and the Study.”

The Righteous Children CANNOT have ANY VISION of the SUBTLE Vice of the SUBTLE Lust, in the form of the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age! If the Righteous Children BREAK this Spiritual PLEDGE, they would get SEVERELY HURT, and may EVEN get TREACHEROUSLY TRAPPED in the VICIOUS BOG of body-consciousness, EVEN FURTHER, just like the BLIND Unrighteous children!
ALL these SUBTLEST ASPECTS of Spirituality are INCOGNITO and VERY SUBTLE, requiring a VERY DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम सब सर्जन हो - शिवबाबा अविनाशी गोल्डन सर्जन है। तुम भी नम्बरवार सर्जन हो। अभी कोई सम्पूर्ण गोल्डन एजेड बना नहीं है। तुमको सर्विस करनी है। समझाने समय हर एक की नब्ज देखनी है। महारथी जो हैं, वह अच्छी नब्ज देखेंगे। तुमको पूरा गोल्डन एजेड बनना है।
“All of You are Surgeons, and ShivBaba is the eternal, golden Surgeon. You too are Surgeons, number-wise. As yet, no one has become completely Golden Aged. You have to do Service. At the time of explaining, feel each one's pulse. Those who are ‘maharathis’ would be able to feel the pulse very well. You have to become COMPLETELY Golden Aged.”

The Righteous Children are TRAINED by the ETERNAL, GOLDEN SURGEON - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – and so they too become Supreme Spiritual Surgeons, like Father Shiva, THROUGH Father Brahma or Brahma Baba - although STILL number-wise – en route to developing their COMPLETE Golden Aged Spiritual stage, like Brahma Baba.

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 09.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यहाँ बच्चे जानते हैं, हम जीते जी शरीर से अलग हैं, और अपने परमपिता परमात्मा के साथ उनके धाम जाने वाले हैं। जो आत्मायें जा नहीं सकती हैं, उनको योग से पवित्र बना रहे हैं।
“Here, You Children know that You are separate from your bodies while living, and that You will be going (back) along with the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, to His Land. Souls are unable to go there, so He purifies them with Yoga.”

Impure embodied souls CANNOT go back to the Supreme Abode, or the Soul World, until they FIRST become COMPLETELY pure and soul-conscious, ONCE AGAIN. The Righteous Children will ACTUALLY go back along with the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, to the Soul World, ONLY AFTER they are COMPLETELY purified through His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance. ALL OTHER embodied souls will ALSO go back, AFTER being COMPLETELY purified through HARSH EXTERNAL PROCESSES, incorporated within this EWD Play.
Although the Righteous Children CANNOT ACTUALLY go back to the Soul World UNTIL they become COMPLETELY pure, but STILL they have to Remember Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, in the Soul World, in order to become COMPLETELY pure - AFTER having received the CORRECT introduction of the individual soul, of the Supreme Soul, and of the Soul World, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, HIMSELF, THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR.


इसको कहा जाता है, नॉलेज। रूह को नॉलेज मिलती है। यह ‘बच्चे-बच्चे’ कहने वाला कौन है? परमपिता परमात्मा, जिसको सभी भगत याद करते हैं।
“This is called Knowledge. The souls receive Knowledge. Who is the One who says, ‘Child, Child’?
The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, whom all devotees remember.”

ONLY the Righteous Children receive the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, from Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba – and addresses them as ‘Child, Child’.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children receive the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and hence he CANNOT address them as, ‘Child, Child’!


आत्मा समझती है, पतित-पावन बाप मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति देने वाला है। उनको तो अपना शरीर है नहीं। यह लोन लिया है। हमको भी यह छोड़ना है, और जिसका घर है उनको भी छोड़ना है।
“The soul understands that the Purifier Father is the One who gives Liberation and Liberation-in-Life. He does not have a body of His own. He has taken THIS (body) on loan. I also have to leave this, and this one, whose home (body) this is, also has to leave it.”

When REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God says that He has taken the body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR on loan, it means that, since He does not have a body of His own, He has to temporarily take the loan of the body of Brahma Baba, in order to give the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and TEACH RajYog to the Righteous Children – FIRST, in ‘Sakar’; and THEN, in ‘Akar’!
It does NOT mean that Shiva takes the body of Brahma Baba on loan, ONLY TEMPORARILY, and that He THEN has to take the corporeal body of ANOTHER embodied soul ‘PERMANENTLY’ – as is TREACHEROUSLY implied by the Defamer Of God, under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya!


वैसे, तुम बच्चों का भी यह पुराना घर है, इनमें खिड़कियां आदि सब हैं। तो बाप कहते हैं, बच्चे यह पुराना घर सबको छोड़ देना है। मेरे साथ घर चलना है, इसलिए जीते जी इस घर से ममत्व मिटाते जाओ। अपने को आत्मा निश्चय करो, और बाप को याद करो।
“In fact, these are the old homes (bodies) of You Children too, and they have everything – windows, etc. So, the Father says: Children, You ALL have to leave those old homes (bodies). You have to return Home with Me. Therefore, continue to remove attachment from these homes (bodies), while living. Have the faith that You are a soul, and Remember the Father.”

In order to become COMPLETELY pure, and leave these old homes of the impure corporeal bodies, and ACTUALLY go to the Supreme Abode, or the Soul World, the Righteous Children must have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY the ONE Incorporeal, Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, the way He ACTUALLY is – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves also as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy.


यह शरीर भी पुराना घर है। बाबा ने समझाया है - यह अकालतख्त है, जो छोड़कर फिर दूसरा लेना होता है। तख्त के बदले, घर कहना ठीक है। घर में खिड़कियां आदि होती हैं, इसलिए शरीर को घर कहा जाता है। ...
तुम्हारी आत्मा जानती है - यह पुराना घर छोड़ना है।
“This body is also an old home. Baba has explained: This is the ‘immortal throne’, which You have to leave, and take another. Instead of calling it a throne, it is better to call it a home. There are windows, etc., in a home, and this is why the body is called a home. ...
You souls know that You have to leave these old homes.”

The old home of the impure corporeal body of embodied souls is also referred to as the ‘immortal throne’ (‘Akaltakt’), because ALL individual souls are ALSO IMMORTAL, just like Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – and they have to leave one corporeal body and take ANOTHER.

However, the Defamer Of God MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES the term, ‘immortal throne’ (‘Akaltakt’), to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that his perishable impure corporeal body, ITSELF, is the ‘immortal throne’ (‘Akaltakt’), since he CHANGES from ‘Nar’ to ‘Narayan’, or from an ORDINARY human being to an ELEVATED Deity, in the CURRENT perishable impure corporeal body, ITSELF, which CHANGES from impure to pure, or becomes like a golden body (‘kanchan kaya’), within ONE SECOND, with the simultaneous COMPLETE purification of himself, as a soul (according to him) – ALL of which are TOTALLY CONTRARY to the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God!


खुद कहते हैं, बच्चे तुम याद करते थे, अब मैं आया हूँ। कल्प-कल्प इस शरीर में आकर यह यज्ञ रचता हूँ। इनका नाम ब्रह्मा रखना पड़ता है, इनको एडाप्ट किया जाता है। ...
समझाया जाता है, हमारी एम आब्जेक्ट है, नर से नारायण वा मनुष्य से देवता बनना, वा स्वर्ग की बादशाही पाना।
“He Himself says: Children, You used to remember Me, and so I have NOW come. Cycle after Cycle, I enter this body and create this sacrificial Fire. I have to name THIS one Brahma. He is adopted. ...
It is explained that our aim and objective is to change from an ordinary man into Narayan, from a human being to a Deity, and to attain the Sovereignty of Heaven.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ONLY ENTERS the body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and FIRST adopts him as, BOTH, His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Child, through the Lotus Mouth of the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF; AFTER which, He adopts ALL OTHER Righteous Children, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Bahma Baba – ALONE - including his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama.
The CLEAR aim and objective of Brahma Baba, Saraswati Mama, and the CONCERNED Righteous Children, is to change from an ordinary man into Narayan, from an ordinary woman into Lakshmi, from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities, and to attain the inheritance of their Sovereignty of REAL Heaven, or RamRajya, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodWITHIN THEIR INNERMOST AWARENESS or CONSCIOUSNESS, WITHIN ONE SECOND of the ACTUAL Re-Cognition, REAL-EYEsation & EXPERIENCE of God, AS WELL AS, their respective roles in REAL Paradise – in Confluence Age, ITSELF!


अब तुम्हारी श्रेष्ठ हीरे जैसी बुद्धि बनती है। तुम्हारा व्यापार ही है ज्ञान-रत्नों का। ज्ञान रत्नों के बाद, फिर वह रत्न भी तुमको अथाह मिलते हैं। गाया हुआ भी है - सागर हीरे जवाहरों की थाली ले तुम्हारे आगे भेंट रखते हैं।
“Your intellects are NOW becoming as elevated as Diamonds. Your Business is only with the Jewels of Knowledge. After receiving the Jewels of Knowledge, You also receive plenty of those jewels. It is also remembered that the ocean presents You with platefuls of jewels and diamonds.”

The intellects of the Righteous Children become as ELEVATED as Spiritual Diamonds, AFTER EXPOSURE to the UNADULTERATED Jewels of Knowledge & Nectar of Knowledge, after which they become worthy to receive PLENTY of the physical jewels and diamonds ALSO, in the New World of RamRajya.

Whereas, the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children become so DEGRADED, AFTER EXPOSURE to the ADULTERATED Stones of INVERTED knowledge & CORRUPTED Poison of REVERTED knowledge, that they are EASILY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that there are NO SUCH physical jewels and diamonds in the New World of RamRajya, and same are ONLY SYMBOLIC – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, MOCKING & INSULTING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY!


बाप आया है, लेने लिए। यह प्रश्न ही नहीं उठता - आत्मायें वहाँ होंगी वा नहीं। हमारा काम है, वर्सा लेना। जरूर आत्मायें होंगी, तब तो आती रहती हैं, वृद्धि को पाती रहती हैं। अभी भी आती रहती हैं ना, तब तो बर्थ कन्ट्रोल आदि करते हैं। आत्माओं को वहाँ से स्टेज पर आना ही है, फिर बर्थ कन्ट्रोल क्या करेंगे। जो कुछ बची-खुची आत्मायें हैं, सब आयेंगी, इसलिए तो वृद्धि होती रहती है। वृद्धि होनी ही है। यह तुम बच्चों को पता है, जो कुछ पिछाड़ी वाले रहे हुए होंगे वह आते जायेंगे, जैसे मच्छर देखो रात को आये, और सुबह को देखो तो सब मरे हुए होंगे। परन्तु उनका कोई हिसाब-किताब थोड़ेही है।
“Father has come to take You (back). This question does not arise, as to whether there will be souls there or not. Our Business is to claim our inheritance. Surely, souls would be there, which is why they continue to come, and expansion continues to take place. Even now, they are continuing to come, which is why they have birth-control, etc. Souls have to definitely come onto the stage from there, and so what is the point of birth-control? All the souls who still remain behind will all come, which is why expansion continues to take place. Expansion has to take place. You Children know that those souls who still remain in the last, will continue to come, just like mosquitoes who are seen to come in the night, and then are seen to be all dead in the morning. However, there is no account for them.

Embodied human souls who come ONLY towards the END of Silver Age, will STILL imbibe AT LEAST TWO WORDS of the UNADULTERATED Knowledge – ‘Manmanabhav’ & ‘Madhyajibhav’.
ALL other embodied human souls, who descend BEFORE Shiva comes to this corporeal sphere, will STILL imbibe AT LEAST ONE WORD of the UNADULTERATED Knowledge – ‘Manmanabhav’.
There is a DEFINITE account for these embodied human souls.
Although there are embodied human souls, who CONTINUE to descend EVEN AFTER Shiva comes to this corporeal sphere, they DO NOT have ANY ACTIVE connection to EVEN ONE WORD of the UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and hence there is NO DEFINITE ACCOUNT for them, since they are just like mosquitoes who are seen to come in the night, and then are seen to be all dead in the morning. Such embodied human souls are of a TOTALLY DIFFERENT CATEGORY ALTOGETHER!


हम आत्मा अपने साइलेन्स होम, मुक्तिधाम में जाती हैं। पियरघर जाती हैं। बुद्धि में यही रहता है - बाबा आया है, हमको ले जायेंगे। गाइड बाबा ही है। कहते हैं, मेरे लाडले बच्चे मैं तुमको साथ ले जाऊंगा। ...
बाप कहते हैं, मैं सबको ले जाऊंगा - मच्छरों के सदृश्य। ...
कोई जा नहीं सकते हैं। मैं तो जा सकता हूँ ना। मैं आता ही हूँ ले जाने के लिए।
“We souls are going to our silence Home, the Land of Liberation. We are going to our Parent’s home. It is in your intellects that Baba has come and will take us (back). Baba alone is our Guide. He says: My beloved Children, I will take You (back) along with Me. ...
The Father says: I will take everyone (back), like a swarm of mosquitoes. ...
No one can go there. But I can go there. I come here only to take You (back).”

Although the Righteous Children CANNOT ACTUALLY go back to the Soul World UNTIL they become COMPLETELY pure, but STILL they have to Remember Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, in the Soul World, in order to become COMPLETELY pure - AFTER having received the CORRECT introduction of the individual soul, of the Supreme Soul, and of the Soul World, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, HIMSELF, THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR.


बाप कहते हैं, मेरे गले का हार बनने से फिर विष्णु के गले का हार बनेंगे। गिरेंगे भी पहले। वह पुजारी बनते हैं, तब रावण के गले का हार बनते हैं। आखरीन यह हालत हो जाती है। तुम जानते हो हम आधाकल्प सुख में, और आधाकल्प दु:ख में रहते हैं। रावण के गले का हार पहले-पहले देवी-देवता धर्म वाले बनते हैं, फिर और धर्म वाले आयेंगे, वह भी रावण के गले का हार बनेंगे। अन्त में सभी रावण के गले का हार बन जाते हैं। यह ड्रामा का खेल ऐसा बना हुआ है, जो सिवाए बाप के और कोई समझा न सके। ... बरोबर, हम असुल में अपने बाप के गले की माला हैं, फिर बाबा हमको सूर्यवंशी, चन्द्रवंशी बनाते हैं। फिर रावण का राज्य होता है। यह सृष्टि का चक्र कैसे फिरता है - तुम जानते हो नम्बरवार।
“Father says: By becoming the garland around My neck, You will then become the garland around the neck of Vishnu. You will also fall down first. When they become worshipers, they become the garland around Ravan’s neck. This becomes the condition by the end. You know that You have happiness for half the Cycle, and sorrow for half the Cycle. Those of the Deity religion are the first ones to become the garland around Ravan's neck, and then those of other religions come. They too become the garland around Ravan’s neck. At the end, everyone becomes the garland around the neck of Ravan. The play of Drama is created in such a way that no one, apart from the Father, can explain. ...
Indeed, we are truly the garland around the Father's neck, and then Baba makes us part of the Sun dynasty and the Moon dynasty. It then becomes the kingdom of Ravan. You know, number-wise, how this World Cycle continues to rotate.”

The CONCERNED Righteous Children become the garland around the neck of Shiva, as PURE bodiless souls ONLY, at the VERY END of Confluence Age. The VERY SAME CONCERNED Righteous Children THEN become the garland around the neck of Vishnu, as PURE souls in PURE corporeal bodies, PRACTICALLY, in the New World of RamRajya. The VERY SAME CONCERNED Righteous Children then become the garland around the neck of Ravan, in the very beginning of Copper Age, symbolically, when they commence UNADULTERATED worship.

In Confluence Age, the CONCERNED Righteous Children, as impure souls within impure corporeal bodies, FIRST become the garland around the neck of Shiva, and THEN, INSTANTLY become the garland around the neck of Vishnu, symbolically - WITHIN THEIR INNERMOST AWARENESS or CONSCIOUSNESS, WITHIN ONE SECOND of the ACTUAL Re-Cognition, REAL-EYEsation & EXPERIENCE of God, AS WELL AS, their respective roles in REAL Paradise – in Confluence Age, ITSELF – through the CORRECT COMPREHENSION of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge!

Whereas, in Confluence Age, the BLIND Unrighteous children, as impure souls within impure corporeal bodies, become the garland around the neck of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS them into DELUSIVELY believing that they are in the process of becoming the garland around the neck of Shiva, and THEN, INSTANTLY becoming the garland around the neck of Vishnu – PRACTICALLY, WITHIN ONE SECOND – in Confluence Age, ITSELF - through the DISTORTED & PERVERTED COMPREHENSION of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


बाप तो परफेक्ट है, उन जैसा परफेक्ट कोई हो नहीं सकता। वह तो जन्म-मरण में आता ही नहीं है। तुम्हारी बुद्धि में कितनी नई-नई प्वाइंट्स हैं, जो और कोई की बुद्धि में बैठ नहीं सकती हैं। यह है गॉड फादरली युनिवर्सिटी; भगवानुवाच, मैं राजयोग सिखलाता हूँ।
“The Father is perfect. No one else can be as perfect as He is. He does not come into birth and rebirth. Your intellects have so many new points, which cannot sit in the intellect of anyone else. This is the God-Fatherly University. God speaks: I TEACH You RajYog.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Righteous Children the UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, through the God-Fatherly University, established through the Lotus Mouth of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR.
The Righteous Children have UNADULTERATED Remembrance of their REAL Incorporeal God-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the DoG-fatherly university, established through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
The BLIND Unrighteous children have ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR FALSE corporeal God-Father – being ACTUALLY the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘God-Father’, ‘Shiva’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Rama’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 10.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
5 हजार वर्ष पहले भी यह ज्ञान सुनाया था। राजयोग सिखलाया था। कल्प-कल्प सिखलाता हूँ। आने से ही, हमारा पतितों को पावन बनाने का धन्धा ठहरा। बाप का पार्ट है, आकर बच्चों को पावन बनाना।
“I gave this Knowledge 5000 years ago too. I taught RajYog; I TEACH Cycle after Cycle. As soon as I come, My Business is to purify the impure. The Father's part is to come and purify You Children.”

The MAIN Spiritual Business of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is to purify the Righteous Children, by TEACHING them the UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, thereby facilitating the process of World Purification & World Transformation.


तुम जानते हो हम सो देवता पावन थे, फिर पावन बनना है। दैवीगुण धारण करने हैं। भविष्य में तुम सूर्यवंशी, चन्द्रवंशी प्रिन्स प्रिन्सेज बनने वाले हो। यह नॉलेज है ही भविष्य प्रिन्स प्रिन्सेज बनने की। तो जब दैवीगुण धारण करेंगे तब प्रिन्स प्रिन्सेज बनेंगे।
“You know that You, YOURSELVES, were pure Deities, and that You have to become pure again, You have to imbibe divine virtues. You will become the Sun dynasty and Moon dynasty Princes and Princesses in the future. This Knowledge is for becoming FUTURE Princes and Princesses. So, You will become Princes and Princesses when you imbibe divine virtues.”

The UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, TAUGHT by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, to the Righteous Children, THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, through the Godly University, enables the Righteous Children to become pure, imbibe divine virtues, and become the Sun dynasty and Moon dynasty Princes and Princesses, in the FUTURE Kingdom of RamRajya, in REAL RAMA’s (God’s) REAL Paradise, over Golden and Silver Ages.

Whereas, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) - through the DoGly university, DOES NOT enable the BLIND Unrighteous children to become pure, or imbibe divine virtues, but only enables them to become the ‘sun dynasty’ and ‘moon dynasty’ princes and princesses, in the FUTURE kingdom of Ravan Rajya, in APPARENT or FALSE Rama’s (Ravan’s) FALSE ‘Paradise’, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.


बाप कहते हैं कि अभी तुम यह व्रत रखो कि विकार में कभी नहीं जायेंगे। जब तक जीना है तब तक पवित्रता का व्रत रखना है। ...
साथ में रहते हुए भी कभी विकार में नहीं जाना है। दोनों को व्रत लेना है।
“The Father says that You have NOW to make a pledge that You will NEVER indulge in Vice. Observe the pledge of purity for as long as You live. ... Even while living together, NEVER indulge in Vice. Both have to make this pledge.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children – BOTH, TRUE Brahma Kumars, AS WELL AS, TRUE Brahma Kumaris (BKs) – have to make a FIRM PLEDGE that they will NEVER indulge in the SUBTLE Vice of the SUBTLE Lust, in the form of the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, by EXPOSING their intellects to same, as LONG as they live in Confluence Age – since same represents the SUBTLE SEED, or SUBTLE ROOTS, of the GROSS Vice of Sex Lust, which is MAINLY responsible to keep ALL the embodied souls of the outer World of Ravan Rajya in the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness, thus PREVENTING them from DEVELOPING soul-consciousness by Re-Cognizing, REAL-EYEsing and EXPERIENCING REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!


जैसे इनको बाप ने एडाप्ट कर ब्रह्मा बनाया है। कोई पूछे तुम कैसे बने? बोलो, ब्रह्मा के मुख से परमपिता परमात्मा ने हमको अपना बनाया है।
“The Father has adopted THIS one and made him Brahma. Some may ask: How did you become this? Tell them: The Supreme Father Supreme Soul has made us belong to Him THROUGH the Mouth of Brahma.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ENTERS the impure corporeal body of the soul of DLR, and adopts him, BOTH, as His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Child, through the mouth of the corporeal body of DLR, HIMSELF, AFTER which he becomes REAL PrajaPita Brahma, through whose Lotus Mouth ALL the OTHER Righteous Children are adopted by Shiva, including the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba, who is Saraswati Mama – ALL of whom are the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma, (who is Brahma Baba).


यह भी बेहद का टीचर है - पढ़ाते हैं। कोई को नॉलेज धारण नहीं होती है, तो क्या करेंगे! टीचर सब पर कृपा करे तो सब पास हो जाएं, फिर तो राजधानी कैसे बनेगी। तुम बच्चों को तो पुरूषार्थ करना है। फालो करो, माँ बाप को। बाप को याद करो, और कोई उपाय है नहीं।
This One is also the Unlimited Teacher, who TEACHES You. What can He do if someone is unable to imbibe Knowledge? If the Teacher were to have mercy on everyone, then everyone would pass. In that case, how would a Kingdom be created? You Children have to make effort. Follow the Mother and Father! Remember the Father, there is no other way.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is ALSO a TEACHER to the Righteous Children, who TEACHES them the UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God CANNOT do ANYTHING, if the BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to imbibe the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, by VOLUNTARILY CHOOSING to EXPOSE their intellects to the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and OPTING to follow the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Rama’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – by DELUSIVELY considering him to be ‘ShivBaba’, and DELUSIVELY believing that Shiva operates through his perishable impure corporeal body, after Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969!
BOTH, the Kingdom of REAL RAMA, AS WELL AS, the kingdom of Ravan, (MASQUERADING as REAL ‘Rama’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), have to be established in Confluence Age, ITSELF – hence God can ONLY watch as a detached Observer, regarding these issues, while continuing to have the GREATEST POSSIBLE COMPASSION for ALL embodied souls, EQUALLY, in GENERAL.

The Righteous Children have to make effort to Remember their ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, and to FOLLOW their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba & their ‘Alokik’ Mother, Saraswati Mama, since there is NO OTHER WAY for them, to claim the inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Shiva, THROUGH Brama Baba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children make effort to remember THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, whom they DELUSIVELY consider to be ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva – but who is ACTUALLY the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – through THEIR bodily guru, MASQUERADING as THEIR ‘Alokik’ Father, or ‘Prajapita’ – but who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – since there is NO OTHER WAY for them, but to claim the inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, THROUGH the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – in Confluence Age, ITSELF.


भारी संकट आने हैं, जब विनाश शुरू हो जायेगा फिर समझेंगे जरूर कहीं भगवान गुप्त वेश में है। कृष्ण अगर होता तो सारी दुनिया में ढिंढोरा पिट जाता। कृष्ण तो आ न सके। यह तो बाप को आना पड़ता है। अन्त तक बाप को ज्ञान सुनाना है। आते ही गुप्त रूप में हैं। कृष्ण तो हो न सके। निराकार बाप सभी का एक है। वह आये हैं पतितों को पावन बनाकर वर्सा देने।
“There will be SEVERE crises when destruction begins. They will then understand that definitely God is somewhere in an incognito form. If it were Krishna, drums would be beaten throughout the whole World. Krishna cannot come (here). The Father has to come. The Father has to speak Knowledge TILL the END. He comes here ONLY in an incognito form. It CANNOT be Krishna. The Incorporeal Father of ALL is One. He has come to purify the impure and give the inheritance.”

The Child, Shri Krishna, who is the first Prince of Golden Age, DOES NOT come to the Confluence Age, in THAT PRACTICAL form of Shri Krishna, but is there in Confluence Age, in the INCOGNITO form of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age - through whose corporeal/subtle body, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who comes on this corporeal sphere, ONLY in the incognito corporeal/subtle form of Brahma Baba - delivers the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge and TEACHES RajYog, to the Righteous Children, who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age.
The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, carries out His MAIN functions of World Purification & World Transformation, and gives the inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF!


हम भी तो ईश्वर की गोद का बच्चा बनें। सदगुरू की गोद तो लें। गोद ली, बाप से मिले, तो यह हमारा वर्सा हो गया। ऐसे मस्त कोई मुश्किल निकलते हैं। समझाना तो है ना। आगे चल, अच्छी रीति समझेंगे। तुम्हारे में यह ताकत भरेगी। फिर बाप से मिलने बिगर ठहर नहीं सकेंगे। एकदम भागेंगे। यह माँ बाप भी है, टीचर भी है, फिर गुरू भी है। माँ बाप की गोद तो ले लो। गुरू के पास जाते हैं, परन्तु वह तो कोई स्वर्ग की बादशाही देते नहीं। बादशाही बाप से ही मिलती है। बाप ही टीचर गुरू भी है, तो क्यों नहीं तीनों से वर्सा लेवें। यह वन्डर है ना?
“We too should become God's adopted Children. We should go into the Lap of the Satguru. Once we Meet the Father and take His Lap, then this becomes our inheritance. Hardly anyone emerges who have so much delight. You have to explain. As you make further progress, they will understand very well. You will be filled with this strength. Then, they will not be able to stay without Meeting the Father; they will run to Him instantly. He is the Mother & Father, the Teacher, and then also the Guru. At least take the Lap of the Mother & Father! They go to their guru, but he DOES NOT give the Sovereignty of Heaven. The Sovereignty is received ONLY from the Father; and the Father, Himself, is the Teacher and also the Guru. So, why not claim the inheritance from ALL THREE? This is a wonder, is it not?”

ONCE an embodied soul Meets the ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, and takes His Spiritual Lap, THROUGH the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba, AFTER CLEARLY Re-Cognizing and REAL-EYEsing BOTH of them, (EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969), then that soul becomes the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma, (who is Brahma Baba), and INSTANTLY becomes a Spiritual HEIR to the inheritance of RamRajya, WITHIN ONE SECOND of the ACTUAL Re-Cognition and REAL-EYEsation - in Confluence Age, ITSELF!
ONCE they CLEARLY understand this, then they will not be able to stay without a Spiritual Meeting with ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, and they will run to Him INSTANTLY, in order to take His Spiritual Lap, since He is the Mother & Father, and ALSO the Teacher, and then ALSO the Satguru, ONLY THROUGH the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

The BLIND Unrighteous children go to THEIR bodily guru, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Rama’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – but they CANNOT receive the inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from him, or through him, and can receive ONLY the inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya through him!

The inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya can ONLY be received by the Righteous Children, from their REAL Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is ALSO their TRUE TEACHER, and who is ALSO their Satguru, and they are able to claim their inheritance from ALL THREE, ONLY THROUGH the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.


कृष्ण के लिए थोड़ेही कहेंगे, वह बाप टीचर गुरू था। कृष्ण तो छोटा प्रिन्स है। यहाँ तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में है कि यह बाप भी है, शिक्षक भी है और गुरू भी है। इनका कोई बाप, शिक्षक, गुरू नहीं है। कृष्ण के तो माँ बाप थे ना। पतित-पावन है एक बाप, जिसको माँ बाप हैं, वह पतित-पावन हो न सकें। उनको भगवान नहीं कह सकते। भगवान का कोई माँ बाप नहीं। गॉड फादर का कोई फादर हो नहीं सकता। गॉड फादर को ही पतित-पावन, लिबरेटर कहा जाता है।
“You would not say that Krishna is the Father, Teacher and Guru. Krishna is just a young Prince. Here, You Children have in your intellects that THIS One is the Father ALSO, the Teacher ALSO, and the Guru ALSO. He DOES NOT have ANY Father, Teacher or Guru. Krishna had a mother and father. The Purifier is the ONE Father. Someone who has a mother and father CANNOT be the Purifier, he CANNOT be called God. God does not have a mother or father. God, the Father CANNOT have ANY Father. ONLY God, the Father can be called the Purifier and the Liberator.

The Child, Shri Krishna, who is the first Prince of Golden Age, DOES NOT come to the Confluence Age, in THAT PRACTICAL form of Shri Krishna, and hence Krishna CANNOT be the Father, Teacher and Guru, since he is just a young Prince of Golden Age. REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the TRUE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father ALSO, the TRUE Supreme TEACHER ALSO, and the TRUE Supreme Guru ALSO, of the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH the INCOGNITO form of Shri Krishna, in Confluence Age, AS REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
REAL God-Father, Shiva, CANNOT have ANY Father of His OWN, and ONLY He can be called as the Purifier and the Liberator of ALL humankind, on this corporeal sphere, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba.


ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान गाया जाता है। वह हम सबका बाप है। कृष्ण को सभी का बाप थोड़ेही कहेंगे। हम एक निराकार बाप के सब बच्चे हैं। वही नई दुनिया का रचयिता है।
“God is remembered as the Highest-on-High. He is the Father of ALL of us. Krishna would not be called the Father of everyone. We are all the Children of the ONE Incorporeal Father. ONLY He is the Creator of the New World.”

The terms, ‘Highest-on-High’, ‘Father’ & ‘Creator’, pertain ONLY to ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – who is the Highest-on-High Incorporeal Father of all the Children, and who is the Creator of the New World of RamRajya.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY MANIPULATES, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES the terms, ‘Highest-on-High’, ‘Father’ & ‘Creator’, used EXTENSIVELY in various SMs, which ACTUALLY pertain EXCLUSIVELY to REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE - and TREACHEROUSLY IMPLIES that the terms, ‘highest-on-high’, ‘father’ & ‘creator’, pertain to himself - being the ‘highest-on-high’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, being the REAL ‘Prajapita’ or ‘father of humanity’, and being the corporeal ‘creator’ of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, who is his corporeal ‘creation’ – (ACCORDING to him) – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, in this FURTIVE manner!


रावण को जलाते भी हैं, परन्तु समझते कुछ भी नहीं हैं। ... यह दुश्मन किस प्रकार का है, जिसको जलाते ही रहते हैं? इनका जन्म कब हुआ? किसको पता नहीं। शिव जयन्ती मनाते हैं, तो रावण जयन्ती भी मनावें ना? समझते कुछ भी नहीं।
“They also burn (an effigy of) Ravan, but they DO NOT understand ANYTHING. ...
What type of enemy is this that they continue to burn him? When was he born? No one knows. They celebrate the Birth of Shiva, so they should also celebrate the ‘birth’ of Ravan, is it not? They DO NOT understand ANYTHING.

The BLIND devotees, under the influence of their BLIND bodily gurus, burn the effigy of Ravan in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, but they DO NOT understand ANYTHING, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place in Confluence Age, when the BLIND Unrighteous children, under the DIABOLIC influence of their BLIND bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – ‘BURN’ the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge within their intellects, with the FEROCIOUS FIRE of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which they sub-consciously ‘BURN’ within the Spiritual FLASH-DRIVE of their ‘sanskars’ - since they DO NOT understand ANYTHING, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, owing to their RESULTANT ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects – due to which they DELUSIVELY consider REAL RAMA to be Ravan, and Ravan to be REAL ‘Rama’!

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Post by Golden Heart » 11 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 11.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अभी तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में है कि परमपिता परमात्मा हमको पतित से पावन बनाने आये हैं। ब्रह्मा के तन में हैं। यह जो दिलवाला मन्दिर है - यह पूरा यादगार है। जो भी भक्तिमार्ग के यादगार हैं, यादगार होते ही इस संगम के हैं। सतयुग त्रेता में तो ऐसी बात होती नहीं, फिर रावणराज्य में मनुष्य दु:खी होते हैं। रावण ही रजो, तमो बनाते हैं।
“ It is NOW in the intellects of You Children that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul has come to make us pure from impure. He is in the body of Brahma. That Dilwala Temple is your COMPLETE memorial. ALL the memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’ are the memorials of ONLY THIS Confluence Age. Such aspects DO NOT OCCUR in the Golden and Silver Ages. Then, in Ravan's kingdom, people become unhappy. Ravan makes you ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. ”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, comes and makes the Righteous Children pure from impure, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
ALL the memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’ are the memorials of ONLY THIS Confluence Age. Such aspects DO NOT OCCUR in the Golden and Silver Ages; they ONLY OCCUR in the Copper and Iron Ages!
The memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’, of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, progressively DEGRADE from Satopradhan, to Rajopradhan to Tamopradhan, or from COMPLETELY UNADULTERATED to COMPLETELY ADULTERATED - in ABSOLUTE CONSONANCE with the INTERPRETATIONS of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which progressively DEGRADE from Satopradhan, to Rajopradhan to Tamopradhan, or from COMPLETELY UNADULTERATED to COMPLETELY ADULTERATED.

The intellects of the Righteous Children are REFRESHED, in Confluence Age, with the UNADULTERATED INTERPRETATIONS of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – which enables them to claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELFand which are represented by the Satopradhan memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’.

Whereas, the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children are REFRESHED, in Confluence Age, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED INTERPRETATIONS of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - (ORIGINALLY spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev) – initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - which enables them to claim their inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELFand which are represented by the Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’.
The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, makes the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’, in Confluence Age ITSELF, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through BOGUS mouth of the the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – which represent the Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’, of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – ONE SUSTAINING the OTHER, in a CIRCULAR FASHION, which REPEATS IDENTICALLY, Cycle after Cycle - in SUCH a SUBTLY SINISTER MANNER, that the VERY EXISTENCE of the Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan memorials of the ‘Path of Devotion’, are ACTUALLY considered to be the LIVING PROOF of VERIFYING & CONFIRMING the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED INTERPRETATIONS (of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge), thus DELUSIVELY considering the same to be the COMPLETE, or ABSOLUTE, TRUTH, when, in ACTUAL FACT, the same is NOTHING but COMPLETE, or ABSOLUTE, FALSEHOOD!


ज्ञान देने वाला एक ही ज्ञान सागर है, जिसकी निशानी यह देलवाड़ा मन्दिर है, और फिर अचलगढ़, और गुरू शिखर भी है। तुमको मालूम है - शिखर चोटी को कहा जाता है। पहाड़ी पर शिवबाबा का मन्दिर है। जिसके लिए कहा जाता है – ‘ज्ञान अजंन..’, ज्ञान का सागर हुआ ना? यह बिल्कुल एक्यूरेट यादगार है।
“Only the ONE Ocean of Knowledge gives You Knowledge. The sign of this is the Dilwala Temple, and THEN ‘Achal Ghar’ (stable Home), and also ‘Guru Shikhar’ (Guru Crown). You know that the (top) braid (of hair) is called the Crown. There is a temple of ShivBaba on the mountain, for which it is said: ‘When the Satguru gave the Ointment of Knowledge, the darkness of ignorance was dispelled’, so He is the Ocean of Knowledge, is He not? This is absolutely an accurate memorial.”

The REAL Satguru - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - gives the ‘Ointment of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, with which the ‘darkness of ignorance’ is DISPELLED from their intellects, in Confluence Age.

Whereas, the FALSE Jhutguru - the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as the REAL Satguru - administers the ‘POISON of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge’, to the BLIND Unrighteous children, ONLY THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, with which the ‘darkness of ignorance’ is REFRESHED within their intellects, in Confluence Age.


यह जैसे डबल पियरघर है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा का भी है, और शिवबाबा भी यहाँ आया है, तुम बच्चों को ज्ञान श्रृंगार कराने। यह है बेहद का पियरघर।
“This is like a DOUBLE Fathers’ Home. It is (the Home) of PrajaPita Brahma, and ShivBaba has also come here to decorate You Children with Knowledge. This is the Unlimited Father’s Home.”

The Godly University is LIKE a DOUBLE Father’s Home for the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins – ONE being the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Father REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & the OTHER being the Unlimited ‘Alokik’ Father REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev.

The DoGly university is ALSO LIKE a DOUBLE Father’s home for the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins – THEIR unlimited father being the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Father & THEIR unlimited ‘Alokik’ father being THEIR bodily guru, who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


कोई सतोगुणी और कोई अब तक भी रजोगुणी हैं। 3 प्रकार के पुरुषार्थी होते हैं। ऊंच ते ऊंच पुरुषार्थी, सदैव बुद्धि में एक बाप को ही याद रखते हैं। ऊंच ते ऊंच है वह बाप।
“Some are ‘satoguni’, and some are ‘rajoguni’ even now. There are THREE types of effort-makers. The highest-on-high effort-makers always maintain the Remembrance of ONLY ONE Father, in their intellects. That Father is the Highest-on-High.

The highest-on-high, or ‘satoguni’, effort-makers always maintain the ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – who is the Highest-on-High – by PRIMARILY considering themselves also as souls within impure perishable corporeal bodies - within their intellects.

Whereas, the lowest-of-low, or ‘rajoguni’ and ‘tamoguni’, effort-makers always maintain the INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, WITHIN the perishable impure corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – who TREACHEROUSLY implies that he is the highest-on-high, whose impure corporeal body is imperishable – by PRIMARILY, DELUSIVELY considering themselves also as impure imperishable corporeal bodies, who have souls, and who have to become the highest-on-high - within their intellects.

There are THREE types of effort-makers, in Confluence Age - FEW are ‘satoguni’, MANY are ‘rajoguni’, and the MAJORITY are ‘tamoguni’, EVEN NOW!
a) The ‘satoguni’ effort-makers would have the CLEAR UNADULTERATED AWARENESS, that the ShivLing represents ONLY the INCORPOREAL form of Shiva - as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - COMPLETELY UNADULTERATED with ANY GROSS, or SUBTLE, form of ANY OTHER embodied soul - PRIMARILY represented by the ShivLing made of PURE/FLAWLESS/TRANSPARENT DIAMOND, or of WHITE STONE, prevalent towards the very beginning of Copper Age.

b) The ‘rajoguni’ effort-makers would have the DISTORTED & ADULTERATED AWARENESS, that the ShivLing represents the INCORPOREAL form of Shiva - WITHIN - EITHER a GROSS, or SUBTLE, form of an embodied soul, whom they consider to be their PERSONAL FAVOURITE DEITY (‘isht Dev’ or ‘isht Devi’) - PRIMARILY represented by the ShivLing made of ADULTERATED GOLD/SILVER, or of BROWN/GREY/COLOURED STONE, prevalent during the middle of Ravan Rajya.

c) The ‘tamoguni’ effort-makers would have the PERVERTED & CORRUPTED AWARENESS, that the ShivLing represents the INCORPOREAL form of Shiva - AS - the COMBINATION of the MALE & FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS - which represents His PRACTICAL ACT of DISSIPATING or TRANSFORMING SEXUAL ENERGY, by PHYSICALLY COPULATING with SELECTED FEMALE embodied souls, through His CHOSEN corporeal Chariot - PRIMARILY represented by the ShivLing made of IMPURE/ADULTERATED COPPER/IRON, or of DARK/BLACK STONE, prevalent towards the very end of Iron Age.
It is AS IF, they MURDER the REAL INCORPOREAL form of God, Shiva, and EVEN REMOVE EVERY TRACE of His ‘CORPSE’, in the form of His ORIGINAL, ACTUAL Chariot, Brahma Baba!


सबको नम्बरवार रूद्र माला बनना है। यह रूद्र माला कितनी बड़ी है। 8 रत्नों की भी माला है, तो 108 की भी है।
“Everyone has to become part of the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, number-wise. This ‘Rosary of Rudra’ is so big. There is also a Rosary of 8 Jewels, and also one of 108.”

Although ALL embodied souls become part of the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, number-wise, as pure bodiless souls, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, there is ALSO the SPECIFIC ‘Rosary of Rudra’ of 8 MOST ELEVATED Jewels, and ALSO the SPECIFIC ‘Rosary of Rudra’ of 108 ELEVATED Jewels, who THEN become the Rosary of REAL Vishnu, in the New World of RamRajya, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Similarly, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, ALSO has the SPECIFIC ‘Rosary of Maya’ of 8 MOST ELEVATED Jewels, and ALSO the SPECIFIC ‘Rosary of Maya’ of 108 ELEVATED Jewels, MASQUERADING as the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, who THEN become the Rosary of APPARENT Vishnu, in THEIR ‘New World’ of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.


सन्यासी घरबार छोड़ते हैं पवित्र बनने लिए; रावण राज्य शुरू होता है, तो पवित्रता की जरूरत रहती है। उस समय हाहाकार हो जाता है। अर्थक्वेक आदि हुआ होगा। इतने सब महल आदि कहाँ गये! सब विनाश को पाते हैं, वा सागर में चले जाते हैं।
“Sannyasis leave their house-hold to become pure. When Ravan’s kingdom begins, there is a need for purity. At that time there is an outcry. Earthquakes must have taken place. Where did all those palaces, etc., go? All of them were destroyed, or sank beneath the sea.

All the palaces made out of REAL gold, and studded with diamonds, jewels and other precious stones, of the Golden & Silver Ages, were destroyed in the earthquakes, and sank beneath the sea, during the TRANSITION from Silver Age to Copper Age, when Ravan’s kingdom, or Ravan’s APPARENT ‘Paradise’ begins in PRACTICAL form, on this corporeal sphere, from the beginning of Copper Age!


स्वर्ग है तुम्हारा बेहद का ससुरघर, जिसके लिए तुम पुरूषार्थ करते हो। पूरा ज्ञान हो, पूरा पुरूषार्थ करें, तब खुशी का पारा चढ़े। अतीन्द्रिय सुख अन्त का गाया हुआ है। पिछाड़ी में तुमको पता पड़ जायेगा कि किस-किस ने कितना पुरूषार्थ किया! क्या पद पायेंगे!
“Heaven is your unlimited in-laws' Home, for which You are making effort. When You have FULL Knowledge, and You make FULL effort, THEN your mercury of happiness will rise. The ‘super-sensuous joy’ of the final time is remembered. At the end You will know how much effort each one has made and what status they will claim.”

ONLY when embodied souls have FULL Knowledge, and make FULL effort, can their mercury of happiness rise, and can they THEN EXPERIENCE REAL ‘super-sensuous joy’, in Confluence Age ITSELF - which is SUPERIOR to the Happiness of Golden Age, and which CANNOT be EXPERIENCED by embodied souls DURING ANY OTHER Age, or period, of the Cycle, OTHER THAN at the VERY END of Confluence Age.


चढ़ते हैं, फिर गिरते हैं, टाइम तो लगता है ना। ऐसा हो नहीं सकता, जो सीधा चलता जाए। थोड़ी भी अवस्था अच्छी होती है, फिर देह-अभिमान आ जाता है। महसूसता आती है, कोई ग्रहचारी है। मन्सा में तूफान बहुत आते हैं। चढ़ने में तो टाइम लगता है। बाबा रोज समझाते रहते हैं कि बच्चे पढ़ाई रोज पढ़ो।
“They climb and then fall, and it does take time. It is not possible for them to continue to move straight ahead. When the stage becomes even a little good, then body-consciousness comes. There is then the feeling that there are some bad omens. Many storms come in the mind. It takes time to ascend. Baba explains every day: Children, Study every day.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God advises the Righteous Children, to ONLY Study the UNADULTERATED Versions in the SMs & AVs, spoken THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence AgeEVERY DAY.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, DIVORCES the BLIND Unrighteous children from the Study of the UNADULTERATED Versions in the SMs & AVs, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – which they study every day!


लक्ष्मी-नारायण से ही राज्य शुरू होगा। वह होता है विकर्माजीत संवत, विकर्मों पर जीत पहनकर, तुम अपना राज्य-भाग्य लेते हो।
“The Kingdom begins only with Lakshmi & Narayan. That is the era of the conquerors of sinful actions. You conquer sin and claim your fortune of the Kingdom.”

The NEW ERA of the Kingdom of Lakshmi & Narayan only begins from the Day of Coronation of the VERY FIRST PAIR of the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan, who are the VERY SAME souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba, who achieve that HIGHEST PRACTICAL status in Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age.


दिखाते भी हैं धूतियों के कारण राम-सीता को वनवास मिला। धूतीपना नुकसान कर देता है। ‘हियर नो ईविल..’, उल्टी-सुल्टी बातें करने वालों के संग में कभी नहीं फँसना। बहुत नुकसान कर देते हैं। बेहद के बाप से बुद्धियोग तुड़ा देते हैं। पूरा योग नहीं तो फेल हो, चन्द्रवंशी में चले जाते हैं। बाकी ऐसे नहीं कि रामराज्य में कोई रावण सीता को चुरा ले गया। नहीं! यह सब गिरावट की बातें हैं।
“They have shown that, because of rumourmongers, Rama and Sita were sent into exile. Gossiping causes a lot of damage. ‘Hear no evil ..’, NEVER become trapped in the company of those who say topsy-turvy things; they cause a lot of damage. They make You BREAK the Yoga of your intellect from the Unlimited Father. When they DO NOT have COMPLETE Yoga, they fail and go into the Moon dynasty. It is not that any Ravan abducted Sita from the Kingdom of RAMA. No! All of these are stories of downfall.”

The Righteous Children should, ‘Hear NO Evil, See NO Evil, Speak NO Evil and Think NO Evil’, in the form of the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and should NEVER become trapped in the DIABOLIC company of the BLIND Unrighteous children, who CLANDESTINELY BREAK the Yoga of the intellect from the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, by speaking topsy-turvy and FALSE things, thus causing a lot of Spiritual damage to others, as well as to themselves, since they DO NOT have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, who is REAL ShivBaba - and instead, focus on remembering THEIR ‘ShivBaba’ within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

Ravan CANNOT abduct ‘Sita’ (pure soul in pure corporeal body) from the ACTUAL PRACTICAL Kingdom of RAMA, in Golden Age and Silver Age.
This refers to the Spiritual abduction of the BLIND Unrighteous children, in Confluence Age, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


सारी दुनिया को तो पढ़ना नहीं है। पढ़ेंगे वही जो कल्प पहले पढ़े थे। ...
याद के बल से एवरहेल्दी, ज्ञान के बल से एवरवेल्दी बनना है। ...
शिवबाबा कहते हैं, पवित्र बनेंगे, तो पवित्र दुनिया का मालिक बनेंगे। नहीं तो फिर सजायें खाकर जायेंगे। कितना बड़ा आर्डानेंस है।
“The whole World is not going to study. Only those who studied in the previous Cycle will Study. ...
You have to become ever-healthy through the ‘Power of Remembrance’, and ever-wealthy through the ‘Power of Knowledge’. ...
Shiv Baba says: If You become pure, You will become the Masters of the pure World. Otherwise, you will return after experiencing punishment. This ordinance is so great.”

The Righteous Children become pure, and ever-healthy through the ‘Power of ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance’, and ever-wealthy through the ‘Power of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, to THEN become the Masters of the pure World of RamRajya, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT become pure, and DO NOT become ever-healthy through the ‘Power of INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance’, and DO NOT become ever-wealthy through the ‘Power of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED Knowledge’ - which THEN ONLY enables them to become the Masters of the impure World of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.


बहुत हैं जिनको यह भी निश्चय नहीं है, पूरा योग नहीं है। दूसरों को समझाते हैं, उन्हों का कल्याण हो जाता है। ऐसे नहीं वह कल्याण करते हैं। नहीं! वह तो अपने भाग्य अनुसार राज को समझ जाते हैं। ऐसे बहुत हैं जो ब्राह्मणी से भी तीखे चले जाते हैं। ...
बहुत बच्चियां हैं जिन्होंने बाबा को कब देखा भी नहीं है, तो भी याद करती रहती हैं, तो जरूर ऊंच पद पायेंगे।
“There are many who do not even have this faith; they DO NOT have COMPLETE Yoga. They explain to others, and the others are benefited. It is not that they give them benefit. No! The others understand the secrets according to their (own) fortune. There are many who become sharper than their teacher. ...
There are many daughters who have never even seen Baba, and yet they continue to Remember Him, and so they will definitely claim a high status.

There are MANY Righteous Children, who have NEVER even seen the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, with their physical eyes, through the corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, after having left his corporeal body in 1969, and YET they CONTINUE to Remember Him, with the THIRD Divine EYE of their intellect, after having DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, and so they will DEFINITELY claim a HIGH status.

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 12.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इतने सभी बच्चे कहते हैं कि हम ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारी हैं, ब्रह्मा की सन्तान हैं। प्रजापिता है, तो उनको जरूर धर्म के बच्चे होंगे। मुख वंशावली हैं, तो भी जरूर मात-पिता चाहिए ना। मम्मा की भी मुख वंशावली कहेंगे। बाबा की भी मुख वंशावली, तो दादे की भी मुख वंशावली ठहरी। कुख वंशावली का यहाँ नाम ही नहीं।
“All of You Children say: We are Brahma Kumars & Kumaris, the Children of Brahma. There is the ‘Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’), and so he would definitely have Spiritual Children. They are all ‘mouth-born’ progeny; then too, a Mother and Father are definitely needed. They would also be said to be the ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of (Saraswati) Mama, and also the ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of (Brahma) Baba, and hence, also the ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of the Grand-Father (ShivBaba). HERE, there is NO such name as ‘womb-born’ progeny (‘kukhvanshavali’).

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, had their ‘Alokik’ Mother, Saraswati Mama; their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba; and their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, ShivBaba; ALWAYS with them, in CORPOREAL, UNTIL 1965/69, when they themselves were ALSO TRAPPED in EXTREME body-consciousness - to be READILY able to relate to them, and INTERACT with them, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, in CORPOREAL.
The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have their ‘Alokik’ Mother, Saraswati Mama; their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba; and their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, ShivBaba; ALWAYS with them, in Avyakt, AFTER 1965/69, when they themselves ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - to be READILY able to relate to them, and INTERACT with them, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, in Avyakt, EVEN WHEN they themselves are STILL within their CURRENT corporeal bodies - EVEN WITH GREATER EASE, than when Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba were in their corporeal bodies – at ANY TIME, at ANY PLACE, and to ANY DESIRED EXTENT!
Since the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have their ‘Alokik’ Mother, Saraswati Mama, ALSO; their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, ALSO; and their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, ShivBaba, ALSO; ALWAYS with them THROUGHOUT the ENTIRE Confluence Age - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the respective IMPURE CORPOREAL bodies of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1965/69; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through their respective SUBTLE stages, till the end of Confluence Age – therefore, the TRUE SPIRITUAL house-hold path is PROVED, for the Righteous Children, during the ENTIRE Confluence Age.
Therefore, the Righteous Children would be considered to be the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of their REAL ‘Alokik’ Mother, Saraswati Mama, ALSO; and the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of their REAL ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, ALSO; and hence, the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of their REAL ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, ShivBaba, ALSO.
There is NO such name as ‘womb-born’ progeny (‘kukhvanshavali’), in the Godly University.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children, of the DoGly university, into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children are the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, while they are the real ‘mouth-born’ progeny of himself - who is their bodily guru - and who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., etc., etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, in this DIABOLIC manner!


वह कलियुगी ब्राह्मण हैं कुख वंशावली, और तुम ब्राह्मण हो मुख वंशावली। वह ब्राह्मण तो एक दो का हथियाला बांधते हैं, विष पिलाने के लिए। और तुम ब्राह्मण अमृत पिलाने, परमात्मा से, हथियाला बांधते हो। कितना अन्तर है। वह नर्कवासी बनाने वाले और यह स्वर्गवासी बनाने वाले।
“Those Iron-Aged Brahmins are the womb-born progeny (‘kukhvanshavali’), and You Brahmins are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’). Those Brahmins bind one another’s hand, to make them drink POISON, and You Brahmins bind their hand with God, to enable them to drink NECTAR. There is SO MUCH DIFFERENCE! They are those who make others into residents of Hell, and You are those who make others into residents of Heaven.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of REAL Brahma, (who is Brahma Baba) - who make others also into residents of Heaven, through the Pure Jewels & NECTAR of UNADULTERATED Knowledge.

The BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, are ACTUALLY the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny (‘kukhvanshavali’) of FALSE Brahma, (who is their bodily guru, MASQUERADING as REAL ‘Prajapita Brahma’) – who MASQUERADE as the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny (‘mukhvanshavali’) of THEIR FALSE ‘Brahma’, and who make others also into residents of Hell, through the IMPURE Stones & POISON of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge.


ज्ञान अमृत से मनुष्य से देवता बनते हैं। हम ईश्वर की औलाद बनते हैं, तो फिर मदद भी मिलती है। सगे और लगे भी हैं ना। लगे बच्चों को इतनी मदद नहीं मिलेगी, जितनी सगे बच्चों को। बाप का लव भी सगों पर ही रहता है।
“With the ‘Nectar of Knowledge’, You change from human beings into Deities. We become the Children of God, and so we also receive help. There are Righteous Children, and ALSO Unrighteous children. The Unrighteous children will not receive as much help, as the Righteous Children. ONLY the Righteous Children receive the Father's Love.

In Confluence Age, there are Righteous Children, and ALSO Unrighteous children.

The Righteous Children, change from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ‘NECTAR of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, AFTER becoming the Children of God, and so they receive REAL HELP, AS WELL AS, TRUE LOVE from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, change from ordinary human beings into DEGRADED Demons - (while remaining under the SEVERE DELUSION that they are in the process of changing from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities) - by EXPOSING their intellects to the ‘POISON of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge’, AFTER becoming the children of God, and so they DO NOT receive REAL HELP, or TRUE LOVE from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, but they DO receive TREACHEROUS assistance, and DELUSIVE love, originating from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, THROUGH the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


जगत अम्बा सरस्वती गाई जाती है। उनके चित्र अनेक हैं। वास्तव में मुख्य एक है, जगत अम्बा सरस्वती। यह ब्रह्मा व्यक्त है, जो अव्यक्त बनता है। अव्यक्त के बाद वह ब्रह्मा फिर साकार महाराजा श्री नारायण बनते हैं, फिर 84 जन्म शुरू होते हैं।
“Saraswati is remembered as JagadAmba. There are many pictures of her. In fact, the MAIN ONE is JagadAmba, Saraswati. This Brahma is corporeal, and then he becomes ‘Avyakt’ (Angel). THEN, that Angel Brahma becomes the corporeal Emperor, Shri Narayan, and then the 84 births begin.”

In Confluence Age, the MAIN, EVIDENT JagadAmba is Saraswati Mama or the soul of Om Radhe – the ORIGINAL, INCOGNITO JagadAmba, Brahma Baba, CONTINUING to be her Spiritual BACK-BONE, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
Brahma Baba is in an impure CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969, and THEN becomes ‘Avyakt’, or a COMPLETE ANGEL, in 1969 - who THEN, HIMSELF, becomes the CORPOREAL, VERY FIRST Prince of Golden Age, Shri Krishna, and THEN ascends the throne, as the VERY FIRST Emperor of Golden Age, Shri Narayan – ALONG WITH his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, who becomes the CORPOREAL, VERY FIRST Princess of Golden Age, Shri Radha, and THEN ascends the throne, as the VERY FIRST Empress of Golden Age, Shri Lakshmi. TOGETHER, they become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in the Confluence Age.


तुम सत के संग में बैठे हो, सच सुनने और सच खण्ड का मालिक बनने के लिए। उनका नाम ही है ट्रुथ। सच्चा ज्ञान सागर। यह तो बाप कहते हैं कि मैं ज्ञान का सागर हूँ। ज्ञान सागर से तुम ज्ञान नदियां निकलती हो।
“ You are sitting in the Company of the Truth, in order to listen to the Truth, and to become the Masters of the ‘Land of Truth’. His name is the TRUTH. He is the TRUE Ocean of Knowledge. The Father says: I am the Ocean of Knowledge. You ‘Rivers of Knowledge’ emerge from the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. ”

The Righteous Children have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - by remaining in His CONSTANT Company of Truth, with the THIRD EYE of their Divine intellect, in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the REAL Truth in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, and to become the Masters of the ‘Land of Truth’ – and are therefore the TRUE ‘Rivers of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, who emerge from the TRUE ‘Ocean of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, Shiva – THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children have INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - by remaining in this CONSTANT Company of FALSEHOOD, using ONLY their corporeal eyes, and hence they are UNABLE to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the REAL Truth in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, and so they become the Masters of the ‘Land of FALSEHOOD’ – and are therefore the FALSE ‘Rivers of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge’, who emerge from the FALSE ‘Ocean of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge’, being the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – THROUGH the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


मेरे पास तो दो धाम हैं। कहाँ चलेंगे? बाप कहते हैं - सुखधाम में तो बहुत सुख है। और मुक्तिधाम में जायेंगे, तो भी पार्ट में तो आना जरूर है। परन्तु जब स्वर्ग पूरा हो जायेगा, तब उतरेंगे। स्वर्ग में नहीं आयेंगे? क्या तुमको स्वर्ग की इच्छा नहीं है? तुम नर्क में माया के राज्य में ही आने चाहते हो? उस समय भी पहले सतो होगा, फिर रजो, तमो होगा।
“I have two Lands. Where would you like to go? The Father says: There is a lot of Happiness in the ‘Land of Happiness’ (‘Sukhdham’). Even if you go to the ‘Land of Liberation’ (‘Muktidham’), you definitely have to come to play your parts. However, you will then descend, when Heaven has ended. Will you not come to Heaven? Do you not have any desire for Heaven? Do you only want to go into Maya's kingdom, into Hell? At that time too, everyone will first be sato, then rajo, and then tamo.

The BLIND Unrighteous children only have the INHERENT POTENT desire to become the Masters of Maya’s kingdom, in Hell, or to become the Masters of the ‘Land of FALSEHOOD’, in Ravan Rajya (or to become the Masters of FALSE Rama’s kingdom, in APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or APPARENT ‘Paradise’, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age) – while CONTINUING to remain under the SEVERE DELUSION that they are in the process of becoming the Masters of REAL RAMA’s Kingdom, in REAL Heaven, or REAL Paradise, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age. At THAT TIME TOO, their kingdom of FALSEHOOD will pass through the stages of sato, rajo and then tamo - just as Devotion ALSO would pass through the similar stages of sato, rajo and then tamo!


सतोप्रधान फिर सतो, रजो, तमो जरूर सबको बनना है। देवतायें जो सतोप्रधान थे, वही फिर आकर तमोप्रधान बन गये हैं। ...
जो पवित्र आत्मा आती है, वह पहले दु:ख पा न सके। आने से ही थोड़ेही पाप करेंगे। परन्तु आत्मा को सतो, रजो, तमो से पास करना है। इस चक्र को भी समझना है।
Everyone definitely has to become ‘satopradhan’, and then go through the stages of sato, rajo and tamo. The Deities who were ‘satopradhan’, themselves have now become ‘tamopradhan’. ...
Pure souls who come down, cannot experience sorrow at first. They would not commit sin as soon as they come, but souls do have to go through the sato, rajo and tamo stages. This Cycle too has to be understood.

EVEN the individual souls, who descend from the Soul World, and take ONLY ONE corporeal body on this corporeal sphere, at the VERY END of Iron Age, have to ESSENTIALLY ALSO go through their respective sato, rajo and tamo stages, AS WELL!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 13.06.1982, Revised 13.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अनुभव द्वारा पाठ पढ़ना यह अविनाशी पाठ हो जाता है। तो विशेष नवीनता यही हो - अनुभव में रह, अनुभव कराना। मुख की पढ़ाई तो बहुत समय चली। अभी सभी को इसी पढ़ाई की आवश्यकता है। इसी विधि द्वारा सभी को उड़ती कला में ले जाना क्योंकि अनुभव बड़े से बड़ी अथॉरिटी है। जिसको अनुभव की अथॉरिटी है, उसको और कोई अथॉरिटी वार नहीं कर सकती। माया की अथॉरिटी चल नहीं सकती।
“A lesson learnt through EXPERIENCE becomes an IMPERISHABLE lesson. Let the special newness be to stay in that EXPERIENCE and to give others the (SAME) EXPERIENCE. Studying through the Mouth has continued for a long time. Everyone NOW needs ONLY this Study. Take everyone into the flying stage ONLY through this method, because EXPERIENCE is the GREATEST of all authorities. Those who have the authority of experience CANNOT be attacked by any other authority. The authority of Maya CANNOT influence them.

A lesson learnt through PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE becomes an IMPERISHABLE & IMPRESSIONABLE lesson, which can NEVER be easily forgotten. Everyone NOW needs ONLY this PRACTICAL Study, through a PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE. PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE is the GREATEST of all authorities. The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who have the CLEAR Spiritual Authority of PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE, through their THIRD Divine EYE of the intellect, CANNOT be attacked by ANY OTHER authority - and the FALSE authority of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, in the form of the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, CANNOT influence them ADVERSELY, in ANY WAY, WHATSOEVER!


यह तो बारात की शान हैं। बापदादा का विशेष श्रृंगार यह हैं। आप सभी के आगे, परिवार के श्रृंगार कौन हैं? यही (दादियां) हैं ना? ... यह सब आप लोगों को अमर भव का सहयोग देती रहती हैं। ... यह स्थूल में निमित्त छत्रछाया हैं। वैसे तो बाप ही छत्रछाया हैं, लेकिन निमित्त यह अनुभवी आत्मायें मास्टर छत्रछाया हैं। कभी धूप अथवा कभी बारिश आती है तो छत्रछाया में चले जाते हैं ना? आप लोगों के पास भी कोई प्राब्लम आती है तो क्या करते हो? साकार में, इन्हों के पास आना पड़ता है। बाप से तो रूह-रूहान करेंगे, लेकिन पत्र तो मधुबन में लिखेंगे ना? ...
जैसे यह निमित्त बनी हुई हैं, ऐसे ही आप भी अपने को हर स्थान की छतरी समझो। जिनके निमित्त बनते हो, उन्हों को सेफ्टी का साधन मिल जाए।
“These (Dadis) are the grandeur of the procession. These (Dadis) are the special decoration of BapDada. In front of ALL of You, who are the decoration of the Family? It is these (Dadis), is it not? ... ALL of them constantly continue to give ALL of You co-operation of being immortal. ... They are the Canopies (of protection) in CORPOREAL, as INSTRUMENTS. In fact, ONLY the Father is the CANOPY (of protection), but these experienced souls are the Master Canopies (of protection), as INSTRUMENTS. When the sun is hot, or when it rains, you go under a canopy, is it not? What do ALL of You do when ANY problem comes to You? You have to come to them, in CORPOREAL (form). You would have a Spiritual conversation with the Father, but You would still write a letter to Madhuban, would You not? ...
Just as they have become the instruments, in the same way, all of you should also consider yourselves to be canopies of your every place (as INSTRUMENTS). Whoever You are instruments for, should experience a means of safety. ”

Although, ONLY the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the ABSOLUTE CANOPY of protection for ALL embodied souls on this corporeal sphere - the Dadis, who have been OFFICIALLY APPOINTED by BapDada, become the Canopies of protection, in CORPOREAL, as INSTRUMENTS ONLY, who give the Righteous Children the Spiritual co-operation of being immortal, and to whom the Righteous Children would go to, in CORPOREAL, when they would have ANY problem to resolve. Therefore, AFTER 1969, the CONCERNED Dadis are the CORPOREAL representatives of Brahma Baba, who is in his ‘akari’ or SUBTLE stage of consciousness, and REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is in his ‘nirakari’ or SEED stage of consciousness.

Therefore, the question of the Defamer Of God being the CORPOREAL representative of BapDada, DOES NOT ARISE AT ALL!!!
The Defamer Of God has THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED the BLIND Unrighteous children with TOTALLY DEROGATORY IMPRESSIONS about the instrumental Dadis, which COMPLETELY CONTRADICT this Pure Version of God, thus CLEARLY PROVING that the SOLE MALAFIDE INTENTION of the Defamer Of God is ONLY to CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, and His CHOSEN Spiritual instruments, in the MOST DIABOLIC manner, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya!


अन्त में सब पार्टधारी इकठ्ठे स्टेज पर आयेंगे। चाहे इस शरीर द्वारा सेवाधारी, चाहे भिन्न-भिन्न शरीर द्वारा सेवाधारी। सब इकठ्ठे पार्टधारी स्टेज पर आना अर्थात् जयजयकार हो समाप्ति होना क्योंकि उन्हों का है ही गुप्त रूप में, स्थापना में सहयोगी बनने का पार्ट। आप प्रत्यक्ष रूप में हो। वह गुप्त रूप में अपना स्थापना का पार्ट बजा रहे हैं, अभी प्रत्यक्ष नहीं होंगे क्योंकि पर्दा उठने का समय तब आये, जब सब एवररेडी हो जाएं। सम्पन्न हो जाएं।
“At the end, all the actors will come onto the stage together, whether they are servers through these bodies, or servers through various other bodies. All actors coming onto the stage together will mean that there will be cries of victory and completion; because their parts are to co-operate in the task of establishment, ONLY in an INCOGNITO way. You are in the EVIDENT form. They are playing their parts of establishment in an INCOGNITO way. They will not be revealed now, because the time for the curtain to be opened will come, ONLY when EVERYONE is ever ready and complete.”

The Righteous Children who are carrying out EVIDENT Spiritual Service through their CURRENT corporeal bodies are in EVIDENT form, while the REAL Advance Party souls are co-operating in the task of establishment, ONLY in an INCOGNITO way, through their ‘akari’ or SUBTLE stages - like Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, including ALL the OTHER PROMINENT embodied souls of the Yagya, who have left their corporeal bodies earlier - who will be REVEALED ONLY at the end, when EVERYONE is ever ready and complete.

Thus, it is VERY CLEAR from the above Pure Version of God, that the Defamer Of God and ALL the BLIND Unrighteous children, CANNOT be in the Spiritual category of the REAL Advance Party souls, mentioned herein!

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Post by Golden Heart » 14 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 14.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह भगवान की पाठशाला है। यहाँ है ही, भगवानुवाच, बच्चों प्रति।
“This is the Seminary of God. Here, God speaks to the Children.”

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A is the Seminary of the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, established THROUGH Brahma Baba. God, Himself, TEACHES the UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog to the Righteous Children in this Godly University.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, disseminated through the DoGly university!


ज्ञान सागर से यह ज्ञान नदियां निकलती हैं, उनका यह मेला है। वह है भक्ति, यह है ज्ञान। ज्ञान को कहा जाता है ब्रह्मा का दिन, सतयुग त्रेता; और भक्ति है रात, द्वापर कलियुग। ... बाप कहते हैं - यह है सच्ची कमाई, वह है झूठी।
“This is the gathering of these ‘Rivers of Knowledge’, who emerge from the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. THAT is Devotion and THIS is Knowledge. Knowledge is called the Day of Brahma - the Golden & Silver Ages. Devotion is the Night (of Brahma) - the Copper & Iron Ages. ...
The Father says: This is a TRUE income; the other is FALSE (income).

The Righteous Children are the TRUE ‘Rivers of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, who emerge from the TRUE ‘Ocean of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’- REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and who receive a TRUE Unlimited income of the inheritance of Sovereignty of the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle, during Golden & Silver Ages – from God Father, Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba - in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children are the FALSE ‘Rivers of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge’, who emerge from the FALSE ‘Ocean of ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge’ - being the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - and who receive a FALSE ‘unlimited income’ of the inheritance of sovereignty of the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle, during Copper & Iron Ages – THROUGH the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Prajapita’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - in Confluence Age ITSELF!


परमपिता परमात्मा शिव परमधाम से आकर ब्रह्मा तन का आधार ले तुमको यह राज समझाते हैं। ...
तुम जानते हो सबसे ऊपर है शिवबाबा। पीछे सूक्ष्मवतन में ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर, स्थूल वतन में है यह मनुष्य सृष्टि। मनुष्य सृष्टि में भी पहले-पहले जगत-अम्बा, जगतपिता नाम गाया हुआ है।
“The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, comes from the Supreme Abode, and explains these secrets to You, by taking the support of the body of Brahma. ... You understand that ShivBaba is the HIGHEST of ALL. THEN, in the Subtle Region, there are Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, and in the corporeal region there is this human World. The names of JagadPita (World Father) & JagadAmba (World Mother) are praised in the human World.”

The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the HIGHEST of ALL, who is the Resident of the Supreme Abode, or the Soul World. THEN come the SUBTLE Deities Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, who are the residents of the Subtle Region. THEN come JagadPita (World Father), who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR & JagadAmba (World Mother), who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, on this corporeal sphere – THAT’s ALL!


प्रजापिता तो जरूर यहाँ होगा। सूक्ष्मवतन में तो नहीं होगा। बाप को प्रजापिता द्वारा ही ज्ञान देना है। विष्णु को वा शंकर को ज्ञान सागर नहीं कहा जाता है।
“The ‘Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’) would definitely be here. He would not be in the Subtle Region. The Father has to give the Knowledge ONLY THROUGH the ‘Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’). Neither Vishnu, nor Shankar, can be called as the Ocean of Knowledge.”

The REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL ‘Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’), or REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL JagadPita (World Father) - who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - has to be DEFINITELY on this corporeal sphere, within his impure corporeal body, and CERTAINLY NOT in the Subtle Region, DURING the PERIOD, WHEN REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God delivers the REQUIRED UNADULTERATED Knowledge, through the Lotus Mouth of his impure corporeal body, UNTIL 1969. Thereafter, Shiva CONTINUES to REFRESH the Righteous Children through the COMPLETE ANGELIC form of Brahma Baba, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar. Hence, AFTER 1969, BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, COMBINED TOGETHER as ‘BapDada’, CONTINUE to Spiritually support, sustain and nourish the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - in ‘Avyakt’ - ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age.

Shankar CANNOT be called the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’, since Shankar DOES NOT come on this corporeal sphere, to enact ANY corporeal role, through ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, like Shiva does!


लक्ष्मी-नारायण को महाराजा महारानी कहा जाता है। बचपन में वह महाराज कुमार श्रीकृष्ण और महाराजकुमारी राधे थी। ...
बाप को तो ‘श्री श्री’ कहा जाता है। वह है श्रेष्ठ ते श्रेष्ठ, ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान। वह फिर रचना रचते हैं श्री राधे, श्रीकृष्ण, वह स्वयंवर बाद बनते हैं, महाराजा श्री नारायण और महारानी श्री लक्ष्मी। सतयुग में उन्हों का राज्य चलता है।
“Lakshmi & Narayan are called the Empress & Emperor. In their childhood they were Sovereign Princess Radhe & Sovereign Prince Krishna. ... The Father is known as ‘Shri Shri’. He is the MOST ELEVATED of ALL, the Highest-on-High God. He THEN creates the Creation of Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna, who become Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, after their coronation. Their Kingdom prevails in the Golden Age.”

ONLY God Father, Shiva, who is the MOST ELEVATED of ALL, and the Highest-on-High, can be called as ‘Shri Shri’ (DOUBLE ‘Shri’), since He ALONE is the REAL, MOST ELEVATED, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ CREATOR, who creates the ELEVATED Creation of Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna, who become Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, after their coronation – being the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God CRAFTILY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the MOST ELEVATED ‘creator’ of the ELEVATED ‘creation’ of Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna of Golden Age, since he is their corporeal father, to whom they are born TOGETHER, as TWINS, in the very beginning of Golden Age – which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God Father, Shiva.
In this manner, the Defamer Of God CONTINUES to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, while carrying out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को ग्रेट ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर कहा जाता है। इस संगम पर उनकी महिमा है, जबकि शिवबाबा आकर एडाप्ट करते हैं - ब्रह्मा-सरस्वती और तुम बच्चों को।
“PrajaPita Brahma is called the great, great grand-Father. He is praised at this Confluence Age, when ShivBaba comes and adopts Brahma, Saraswati and You Children.”

REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL PrajaPita Brahma, who is also referred to simply as ‘Brahma’, for short, MANY times in the SMs, by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and who is addressed as ‘Brahma Baba’ by the Righteous Children, is also called as the great, great grand-Father. When Shiva comes, He FIRST adopts the soul of DLR, as PrajaPita Brahma, through the Lotus Mouth of the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, and THEN adopts ALL the OTHER Righteous Children ALSO through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, including his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama - all of whom become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Shiva, THROUGH REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) - and are therefore, more APPROPRIATELY, referred to as the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma (Brahma ‘mukh-vanshavali’).


भक्ति शुरू होने से ही पहले-पहले शिवबाबा का सोमनाथ मन्दिर बनाते हैं। पहले-पहले होती है शिवबाबा की अव्यभिचारी भक्ति, और यह है शिवबाबा का अव्यभिचारी ज्ञान, जिससे तुम पावन बनते हो।
“As soon as Devotion begins, FIRST of ALL the Somnath Temple of ShivBaba is built. FIRST of ALL, there is UNADULTERATED Devotion of ShivBaba; and THIS is ShivBaba's UNADULTERATED Knowledge, through which You become pure.”

The UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - through which the Righteous Children become pure from impure - is commemorated by the UNADULTERATED Devotion, or ‘Satopradhan Bhakti’, of ShivBaba, prevalent in the BEGINNING of Copper Age.

Whereas, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated THROUGH the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - through which the BLIND Unrighteous children become MORE IMPURE from impure - is commemorated by the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED Devotion, or ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, of ShivBaba, prevalent in the MIDDLE & END of Copper Age, to a moderate extent, and during the Iron Age, to an extreme extent!


देवतायें कभी पतित दुनिया पर पैर नहीं रखते हैं। महालक्ष्मी का आवाह्न करते हैं। हर वर्ष उनसे धन मांगते हैं। लक्ष्मी-नारायण दोनों इकठ्ठे हैं। महालक्ष्मी को 4 भुजा दिखाते हैं। दीपमाला पर उनकी पूजा करते हैं। हर वर्ष भारतवासी भीख मांगते हैं। यह हैं विष्णु के दो रूप। मनुष्य इन बातों को कोई जानते नहीं।
Deities DO NOT EVER set foot in the impure World. They invoke MahaLakshmi every year, and ask her for wealth. Lakshmi & Narayan are both shown together. MahaLakshmi is shown with four arms. She is worshiped at the time of Deepmala, and the residents of Bharat beg from her every year. These are the two forms of Vishnu. People DO NOT understand these aspects.”

MahaLakshmi is shown with FOUR arms – TWO arms representing Lakshmi & TWO arms representing Narayan. Hence, MahaLakshmi is the SYMBOLIC representation of the TWO forms of Lakshmi & Narayan - MEANING ONE form of Lakshmi & ONE form of Narayan – which PRIMARILY represents the ELEVATED embodied souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, being the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns, in Confluence Age.

Vishnu is ALSO shown with FOUR arms – TWO arms representing Lakshmi & TWO arms representing Narayan. Hence, Vishnu is ALSO the SYMBOLIC representation of the TWO forms of Lakshmi & Narayan - MEANING ONE form of Lakshmi & ONE form of Narayan – which PRIMARILY represents the ELEVATED embodied souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, as the VERY FIRST PAIR of Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age - being the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns, in Confluence Age.

Therefore, MahaLakshmi & Vishnu are the TWO forms of Vishnu ONLY - BOTH, PRIMARILY representing the ELEVATED embodied souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama - being the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns, in Confluence Age.

Embodied souls with GROSS intellects CANNOT COMPREHEND these aspects in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE!
The Defamer Of God CRAFTILY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that, ‘TWO forms of Vishnu’, means that the FIRST PAIR of Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age, who are the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba, represent one form of Vishnu (who represent the ‘creation’), and their corporeal parents, (to whom BOTH of them are born as TWINS), are ALSO referred to as Lakshmi & Narayan of Confluence Age, who represent the other form of Vishnu (who represent the ‘creator’), being SUPERIOR in Spiritual status to THEIR ‘creation’, Radhe & Krishna of Golden Age.
This is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the Pure Versions of God, who has CLEARLY DECLARED that Shri Krishna is born FIRST, and Shri Radhe is born about 2 to 4 years later, in the beginning of Golden Age, to DIFFERENT sets of corporeal parents, whose Spiritual status is LOWER than Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe of Golden Age, respectively.
In this manner, the Defamer Of God CONTINUES to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, while carrying out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


इस समय है प्रजापिता आदि देव और जगत अम्बा आदि देवी। ... यह ब्रह्मा है साकारी पिता और शिवबाबा है निराकारी पिता। वर्सा तुमको उनसे मिलना है। वह है स्वर्ग का रचयिता, तुम 21 जन्मों के लिए वर्सा पा रहे हो। कितनी जबरदस्त तकदीर है।
“PrajaPita Adi Dev & JagadAmba Adi Devi are here at THIS TIME. ... THIS Brahma is the CORPOREAL Father, and ShivBaba is the INCORPOREAL Father. You receive your inheritance from Him. He is the Creator of Heaven. You receive your inheritance for 21 births. Your fortune is so great!”

The fortune of the CONCERNED Righteous Children is so GREAT, because they ALWAYS have their ‘Alokik’ CORPOREAL Father – PrajaPita/JagadPita/Adi Dev – Brahma Baba; AND their ‘Alokik’ CORPOREAL Mother – JagadAmba/Adi Devi – Saraswati Mama; AND their ‘Parlokik’ INCORPOREAL Father/Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – with them - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the IMPURE CORPOREAL bodies of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1965/69; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through their SUBTLE stages, till the end of Confluence Age. The Righteous Children receive their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the REAL CREATOR of REAL Heaven, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF.


कृष्ण का जन्म तो होता है सतयुग में। ... अब तुम बच्चे जानते हो कृष्ण कैसे 84 जन्म लेते हैं। ...
राधे और कृष्ण तो दोनों अलग-अलग घर के हैं। ... तुम अब समझते हो कृष्ण का जन्म सतयुग आदि में हुआ था। राधे का भी सतयुग आदि में कहेंगे। करके 2-4 वर्ष का अन्तर होगा।
“Krishna takes birth in the Golden Age. ... You Children NOW understand how Shri Krishna takes 84 births. ... Radhe and Krishna are both from SEPARATE homes. ... You NOW understand that the birth of Krishna took place, in the beginning of Golden Age, and that of Radhe also, in the beginning of Golden Age; there would be a difference of 2 to 4 years.

Shri Krishna, of Golden Age, takes the FULL 84 births, and is PRESENT CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT the FULL Confluence Age, WITHOUT ANY BREAK in his Spiritual AWARENESS or CONSCIOUSNESS - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age. Shri Krishna and Shri Radhe, of Golden Age, are from SEPARATE homes, and take birth to SEPARATE sets of sovereigns, from SEPARATE kingdoms. The birth of Shri Krishna takes place in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, while the birth of Shri Radhe takes place only after about 2 to 4 years, in the beginning of Golden Age.

The Defamer Of God BLATANTLY REFUTES ALL ABOVE, and CONTINUES to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, while carrying out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यह है माया के साथ युद्ध। रावण पर विजय प्राप्त करते हो, इस युद्ध के मैदान में। बाकी पाण्डवों कौरवों की लड़ाई है नहीं। तुमको माया पर जीत पानी है। बाप आत्माओं को कहते हैं, मामेकम् याद करो, तो तुम्हारे विकर्म विनाश होंगे और माया पर जीत हो जायेगी। बुद्धियोग बल और ज्ञानबल से माया पर विजय प्राप्त करनी है। भारत का प्राचीन योगबल मशहूर है, जिससे तुम रावण पर जीत पाकर राज्य लेते हो।
“This is a battle with Maya. You achieve victory over Ravan on this battlefield; there is NO FIGHTING between the Pandavas and the Kauravas. You have to achieve victory over Maya. The Father says to souls: Remember Me ALONE, and your sins will be absolved, and You will achieve victory over Maya. You have to achieve victory over Maya with the Power of Yoga of your intellect & the Power of Knowledge. Ancient Power of Yoga of Bharat is very renowned, through which You achieve victory over Ravan, and claim your Kingdom (of Heaven).”

The Righteous Children achieve Victory over Ravan or Maya, with the Power of Knowledge & the Power of Yoga of their intellects, and claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF. There is NO PHYSICAL FIGHTING or WARFARE between the TRUE Righteous Children, or the Pandavas & the Unrighteous children, or the Kauravas.
The TRUE Righteous Children, or the Pandavas have NO CAUSE to FIGHT, and have NO NEED to FIGHT with ANYONE ELSE, since they ONLY have to achieve SUBTLE Victory over the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - ACTIVELY OPERATING through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – with the THIRD Divine EYE of their intellect!


बड़े ते बड़ी तकदीर है ना। ... सेकेण्ड में स्वर्ग की बादशाही। जब तक बाप की पहचान बुद्धि में नहीं बैठी है, तब तक समझ नहीं सकेंगे।
“You have the GREATEST fortune. ... You claim the Sovereignty of Heaven IN A SECOND. Until their intellects Re-Cognise the Father, they will NOT understand.

The Righteous Children have the GREATEST fortune of claiming their inheritance of Sovereignty of REAL Heaven, IN A SECOND - the VERY INSTANT they Re-Cognize & REAL-EYEs, BOTH, their ‘Parlokik’ Father, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, AS WELL AS, their REAL, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO their REAL, INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother – in Confluence Age, ITSELF.

The BLIND Unrighteous children will NOT be ABLE to understand ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, UNTIL they FIRST Re-Cognize & REAL-EYEs, BOTH, the ‘Parlokik’ Father, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is ALSO the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, AS WELL AS, the REAL, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father of Humanity, REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO the REAL, INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of Humanity!


वास्तव में सीतायें तुम हो, राम है निराकार भगवान। सभी भगत हैं, पुकारते हैं, ‘हे राम, हे भगवान, आप आकर हम सीताओं को पावन बनाओ’, फिर ‘रघुपति राघव राजाराम’ कह देते हैं! सुनी सुनाई बात को पकड़ लिया है।
“In fact, You are the Sitas, and RAMA is Incorporeal God. All the devotees call out: ‘O RAMA, O God, You come and purify us Sitas’! Then, they say, ‘Raghupati Raghav RajaRam’ (the praise of King Rama, the Lord of the Raghu clan). They just carry on with the things they hear.”

ALL embodied souls, whether in male of female corporeal bodies, are ‘Sitas’, and ONLY ONE INCORPOREAL God Father, Shiva, is REAL RAMA!
The BLIND Unrighteous children MIX UP REAL INCORPOREAL RAMA, with their bodily guru, who is the LAST Sovereign, ‘Rama’, of Silver Age, DELUSIVELY considering him to be ‘ShivBaba’, since they DELUSIVELY believe that Shiva operates through his impure perishable corporeal body, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969, in the latter part of Confluence Age, and they JUST CARRY ON with the things which they HEAR, and BLINDLY CONTINUE to propagate HEARSAY, without making a SINCERE ATTEMPT to DETERMINE how they are being taken for a HOLY RIDE by THEIR bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., etc., etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


परमपिता परमात्मा से बहुत समय से कौन बिछुड़ते हैं? वही जो पहले-पहले सतयुग में थे, तो जरूर उनसे ही पहले भगवान मिलेंगे, पहले वही आयेंगे।
“Who get separated from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul for a long period of time? Only those who were in the Golden Age FIRST of ALL, and so God would definitely meet them FIRST; ONLY they will come FIRST.

The Righteous Children - STARTING from the soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, being the soul of Brahma Baba - get separated from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, for a long period of time - RIGHT from the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, to NEARLY the VERY END of Iron Age - and so they are the ones who come FIRST to meet God, in ‘Sakar’ - FIRST of ALL - in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age - through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, who is the REAL PrajaPita, the REAL JagadPita and the REAL Adi Dev.

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Post by Golden Heart » 15 Aug 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 15.08.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इस समय तो कोई मनुष्य मात्र बाप को जानते ही नहीं, सिवाए तुम बच्चों के। सो भी नम्बरवार पुरूषार्थ अनुसार हैं। तो हर एक खुद समझ सकते हैं कि बेहद के बाप को नहीं जानते।
“At this time, no human being knows the Father, at all - apart from You Children, who are also number-wise, according to your efforts. Therefore, every one can understand, for THEMSELVES, that they DO NOT know the Unlimited Father.”

ONLY the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE, BOTH, their ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, AS WELL AS, their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, who is ALSO their ‘Alokik’ Mother – who are nevertheless, NUMBER-WISE, in their DEGREE of Re-Cognition, REAL-EYEsation & EXPERIENCE, according to their individual Spiritual efforts!
EACH ONE can READILY understand, for THEMSELVES, as to what EXTENT they TRULY Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE, BOTH, their ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, AS WELL AS, the REAL, ORIGINAL ‘Alokik’ Father of Humanity, Brahma Baba, who is ALSO the ORIGINAL, INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of Humanity – the Spiritual function of the ORIGINAL, INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of Humanity, being THEN delegated to the ORIGINAL, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother of Humanity, Saraswati Mama, who is the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba.


बाप की बायोग्राफी किसको पता नहीं है। गाया भी जाता है कि ‘फादर शोज सन, सन शोज फादर’। अब तुम बच्चों को ही बाप का शो करना है। फादर तो अपना शो नहीं कर सकता। फादर तो बाहर नहीं जायेगा। तुम बच्चों को ही बाप का परिचय देना है। यह भी समझते हैं कि बेहद का बाप स्वर्ग का रचयिता है।
“No one knows the Father's Biography. It is also sung, ‘Father shows son, son shows Father’. Now, ONLY You Children have to show the Father. The Father CANNOT show Himself. The Father would not go outside. ONLY You Children have to give the Father's introduction. You also understand that the Unlimited Father is the Creator of Heaven.”

NO ONE knows the ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Spiritual Biography of the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - from the VERY beginning, to the middle, to the VERY end – DURING the PERIOD, WHEN the most ELEVATED embodied souls are in the process of taking the FULL 84 births, during the ENTIRE Cycle of 5000 years, on this corporeal sphere.
The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the REAL ‘Parlokik’ Creator of REAL Heaven, or REAL Paradise, performs His designated functions of giving the fruit of the intense devotion of the devotees to them, and grants them visions accordingly, DURING Copper & Iron Ages, when the most ELEVATED embodied souls are in the process of enacting their roles, by taking 21 bodies during Copper Age, and 42 bodies during Irong Age, during the ‘Night of the Cycle’; AND He THEN comes down on this corporeal sphere, during the Confluence Age, and uses the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba, to bring about World Purification & World Transformation, (which represents the ONE Spiritual birth during Confluence Age, after Re-Cognizing & REAL-EYEsing Him); and THEN, He RESTS during the ‘Day of the Cycle, during Golden & Silver Ages, when the most ELEVATED embodied souls are in the process of enacting their ELEVATED roles, by taking 8 bodies during Golden Age, and 12 bodies during Silver Age.
This is a comprehensive account of the Spiritual Biography of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – DURING the PERIOD, WHEN the most ELEVATED embodied souls are in the process of taking the FULL 84 births, during the ENTIRE Cycle of 5000 years, on this corporeal sphere.
In Confluence Age, Father Shiva reveals His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Child, Brahma Baba, AFTER entering him, and adopting him as His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His Spiritual Child, through the Lotus Mouth of the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF. AFTER receiving the CORRECT introduction of Father Shiva, and his own introduction, Brahma Baba THEN reveals Father Shiva to ALL OTHER Righteous Children, who are ALSO adopted by Father Shiva, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – and so they become the TRUE ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba). This is the ACTUAL significance of the praise which is sung in the outer World, ‘Father shows son, son shows Father’. Father Shiva shows, or reveals, His Son, Brahma Baba; and THEN Brahma Baba shows, or reveals, his Father, Shiva!
THEN, the Righteous Children have to show, or reveal, Father Shiva to OTHERS, because Father Shiva CANNOT show, or reveal, Himself, since He is INCORPOREAL; and He would NOT go to ANY outside gatherings, but would speak ONLY to the Righteous Children, who Re-Cognize & REAL-EYEs Him ACCURATELY. ONLY the Righteous Children have to give the ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED introduction of Father Shiva to ALL OTHERS – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God SEVERELY MANIPULATES, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES the above Pure Version of God, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he is the REAL ‘Prajapita’, or corporeal ‘creator’, who shows, or reveals, his corporeal ‘creation’ of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age, (since he is instrumental to give Spiritual birth to Brahma Baba, in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age - according to him), and then Brahma Baba shows, or reveals him, as his ‘Alokik’ father, or ‘Prajapita’, or his corporeal father, (since he is ALSO instrumental to give corporeal birth to Brahma Baba, as Shri Krishna, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – according to him) – ALL of which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of God, in the SMs.
According to the Defamer Of God, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs), do not know him, as the REAL ‘Prajapita’, or corporeal ‘creator’; and the praise, ‘Father shows son, son shows Father’, pertains to him; and the BLIND Unrighteous children should REVEAL him, since he CANNOT reveal himself, as he would not go to outside gatherings of BKs, but would speak ONLY to the BLIND Unrighteous children, who Re-Cognize & REAL-EYEs him ACCURATELY, as their REAL ‘Prajapita’, or corporeal ‘creator’; and ONLY they can give his CORRECT introduction to the BKs, as the REAL ‘Prajapita’ (according to him) – thus becoming instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - and CONTINUES to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God, CONSISTENTLY and PERSISTENTLY, in this DIABOLIC manner!


तुम्हारी समझ में आता है, हम पारलौकिक मात-पिता के बने हैं। यह ज्ञान की बातें अभी यहाँ चलती हैं, सतयुग में नहीं चलती। वहाँ तो न ज्ञान है, न अज्ञान है। ज्ञान देने वाला वहाँ कोई है नहीं। ज्ञान से तो प्रालब्ध पा ली। तुम अभी ज्ञान से प्रालब्ध पा रहे हो, नम्बरवार पुरूषार्थ अनुसार। देही-अभिमानी बनना बड़ी मेहनत की बात है। शिवबाबा की सर्विस में जो तत्पर रहेंगे, वही देही-अभिमानी बन सकते हैं।
“You NOW understand that You belong to the ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Father. These aspects of Knowledge prevail here, NOW; they DO NOT prevail in the Golden Age. THERE, there is neither Knowledge, nor ignorance. THERE, there is no one who gives Knowledge. They have ALREADY ACHIEVED the reward through Knowledge (THERE). You are NOW receiving the reward through Knowledge, number-wise, according to your efforts (HERE). It requires a lot of effort to become soul-conscious. ONLY those who remain engaged in ShivBaba's Service can become soul-conscious.”

The reward, in the form of the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, is received by the Righteous Children, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age, ITSELF – to THEN be able to PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE same, in the New World of RamRajya - having ALREADY ACHIEVED same through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, in Confluence Age, ITSELF.


अभी तो तुम देही-अभिमानी बन रहे हो। कोई तो सिर्फ तमोप्रधान से तमो तक आये हैं, सिर्फ प्रधानता निकली है। कोई रजो तक पहुँचे हैं। सतो में तो कोई-कोई आये हैं। ऐसे नहीं कि धीरे-धीरे आते जायेंगे। कब तक धीरे-धीरे चलते रहेंगे?
“You are NOW becoming soul-conscious. Some have just reached the ‘tamo’ stage, from being tamopradhan, and only that extremity has been removed. Others have reached the ‘rajo’ stage. Only a few have reached the ‘sato’ stage. It is not that you will gradually reach that stage. For how long will you continue to move along slowly?”

Since 80 years, out of 100 years of Confluence Age, have ALREADY ELAPSED, by 2017, hence CONCERNED souls should have COVERED AT LEAST 80 per cent of the stage, towards being COMPLETELY pure, ‘satopradhan’, or soul-conscious, AGAIN! Therefore, their PRACTICAL Spiritual EXPERIENCES, thus far, in Confluence Age, should ACTUALLY MATCH the proportionate DEVELOPMENT of their Spiritual stage, towards becoming COMPLETELY pure, ‘satopradhan’, or soul-conscious, AGAIN! It is NOT THAT souls should DECEIVE THEMSELVES by simply KEEPING on saying that they will become pure, ‘satopradhan’, or soul-conscious, AGAIN, ONLY at the END of Confluence Age, while STILL CONTINUING to be DIVORCED from such PRACTICAL Spiritual EXPERIENCES - which serve as a MEASURING INSTRUMENT, which CLEARLY INDICATES the ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT of the pure, ‘satopradhan’, or soul-conscious stage, ONCE AGAIN!


देही-अभिमानी को कभी देह का अभिमान नहीं रहेगा कि ‘यह काम मैं क्यों करूँ, इसमें मेरी इज्जत जायेगी’। तुम पाकिस्तान में थे तो बाबा भी बच्चों को सिखाने के लिए सब काम करते थे कि देह-अभिमान न रहे। देह-अभिमानी बनने से सत्यानाश हो जाती है। बाहर में जो प्रजा बनने वाले हैं, उनसे भी गिर पड़ेंगे।
“Those who are soul-conscious, will not have any body-consciousness, and say, ‘Why should I perform this task? I will lose my honour in this’. When You were in Pakistan, Baba also performed all types of tasks, in order to teach You Children not to have any body-consciousness. When You become body-conscious, there is annihilation. You would then degrade even further than those from outside, who are to become subjects.”

Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, performed ALL TYPES of MENIAL tasks, in order to TEACH the CONCERNED Righteous Children, in the beginning of the Yagya, NOT to have ANY body-consciousness, as a PRACTICAL example before them!


दुनिया में रिलीजस सिर्फ तुम ही हो, वह भी नम्बरवार पुरूषार्थ अनुसार। जो बाप को ही नहीं जानते, वह इरिलीजस। ...
धर्मा और अधर्मा। पाण्डव और कौरव। पाण्डवों की स्थूल युद्ध कोई है नहीं। हमारी तो माया के साथ गुप्त युद्ध है, जिसको कोई भी जानते नहीं। हम अगर बाप को याद नहीं करेंगे, तो माया का थप्पड़ लग जायेगा, तूफान आयेगा।
“ONLY You are religious in this World, and that too, number-wise, according to your efforts. Those who DO NOT even know the Father are irreligious. ...
Religious and irreligious; Pandavas and Kauravas. The Pandavas DO NOT have ANY physical warfare. We have an INCOGNITO warfare with Maya, which no one knows about. If we DO NOT Remember the Father, we would be slapped by Maya, and storms would come.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, or the REAL Pandavas, DO NOT REQUIRE to have ANY physical warfare with ANYONE; their warfare is SUBTLE & INCOGNITO – ONLY with the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Rama’, ‘Bhagvan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!
Hardly ANYONE knows about these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


हमारा काम शिवबाबा से है। कुछ भी है, हमको वर्सा शिवबाबा से लेना है। मम्मा बाबा भी उनसे ही लेते हैं, उनको ही याद करना है। उनकी मुरली सुननी है। नहीं तो कहाँ जायेंगे। हट्टी तो एक ही है ना। यहाँ आये बिगर मुक्ति जीवनमुक्ति मिल न सके। बाप के सामने तो आना है ना।
“Our concern is with ShivBaba. No matter what happens, we have to claim our inheritance from ShivBaba. Mama and Baba also claim it from Him. You have to remember Him ALONE, and listen to His Murli. Otherwise, where would You go? There is ONLY this ONE Shop. You CANNOT receive Liberation and Liberation-in-Life without coming here. You have to come in FRONT of the Father.”

The Spiritual CONCERN of the Righteous Children is ONLY with ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, from whom they claim their inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, through Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF. Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama ALSO claim their inheritance from Him, and so the Righteous Children should have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, and listen ONLY to His Pure UNADULTERATED Murli - spoken through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, ONLY – since there is ONLY this ONE TRUE Spiritual ‘Shop’, in the form of the REAL Godly University, where they can receive TRUE Liberation and TRUE Liberation-in-Life. The Righteous Children HAVE to come in FRONT of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY, which would lead embodied souls to TRUE Liberation and TRUE Liberation-in-Life!

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